Labour Party and anti semitism

I may be wrong but I can’t see labour and Tory MP’s meeting in the middle Iam

Could be Jalima , KCB and QC

The news just reported comments Boris made in an article in today's Telegraph, which seemed to me to fit into the anti islam accusations being levelled against the Conservative party. The consensus seems to be its part of his cunning plan to become tory leader.
I found myself wondering whether a centrist party could emerge from the current mess that is our two main Political parties.
There seems to be growing concern from all quarters about the impact of austerity on public service. The NHS is under increasing pressure, we have senior Police Officers criticising the cuts and saying they can't do their job of keeping the public safe as a result of losing so many officers, education, adult and children services all reporting inability to fulfil their roles.
A centrist party could be popular and even win an election - maybe

Your sad the charges have been dropped Fennel ?

My reaction is just .
And to add to that, I contacted the LP by phone 2 weeks ago about renewing my subscription. They sent me some info by post, saying they enclose an application form. But no form!
So the national helpline is disorganised too.
They did send a prepaid envelope though.

unless Starmer stops behaving like a nodding dog, suppose it could be an act and he is waiting
Playing the long game perhaps …..

There is someone in the wings but no one suitable in the shadow cabinet, unless Starmer stops behaving like a nodding dog, suppose it could be an act and he is waiting

Labour has claimed she expressed regret at how she expressed herself, Margaret has hit back with - there was no regret on either side. Seems there was a danger of many MP’s leaving if the action had gone ahead, not surprised, remember what happened after her vote of no confidence. She is very much respected and there is much affection for her too.

I heard she was ready to sue

What a chaotic lot they are - and some think that they could handle Brexit better?
What a joke!

I do hope Keir Starmer (or someone of equal stature and sense) is in the wings, biding his time.

I should think so too!

Disciplinary action against Margaret Hodge has been dropped.

We did lemon ?

X posts Annie

They were not pushed to do it at all!
They could have carried on and accepted the International definition, but they chose not to because they didn’t want to have to punish anyone, especially friends of Corbyn.
They are a lousy Opposition.

Not so, they chose to amend it, no pushing , the publicity started because of their decision not as you claim trisher

I agree Iam64 but I think the problem is that they are being pushed to do this because of the extraordinary amount of publicity it has received. (Perhaps because this gov is so awful)

I would prefer the LP to focus on challenging this awful government, its assaults on public services and the shambles that is Brexit, rather than on the International Definition of anti Semitism.
It's been accepted by the majority of countries. I'm unconvinced but if there is an argument to re examine the wording, is this the time for the opposition to have this as the focus of its work, rather than its job which is to be HM party of opposition to this awful government.

For legal clarity? The Judiciary, Police, over 100 countries need the help of the Labour Party to clarify it?

Although it is depressing.

Dress not depress.

Nope, they wanted to omit certain parts of it so that they then didn’t have to take action against the antisemitic in their midst.They were rewriting the rule book if you like to suit themselves.
Trying to depress it up as anything else stinks.

Iam64 perhaps that is true but no-one has yet explained to me why the all party committee looking at the IHRA definition advised that additions needed to be made for legal clarity. Very similar additions to those adopted by the NEC. No one appears to know why they were not added and why the IHRA definition was simply endorsed without them. It seems to me that it was possibly a case of it looking good to adopt them as they stand rather than making certain the definitions are legally clear, which, as we have seen, results in cries of anti-semitism from many. In which case we are being governed with, what might be termed ad-man legislation. If it looks good, and sounds good, and you can sell it, never mind if it's fit for purpose. It's dangerous ground to be on.

Eloethan, the attempt to boot Watson out isn’t linked to the child sexual abuse enquiry though. It’s directly linked to his recent comments in support of Margaret Hodge, Ian Austen and the Ongoing issues relating to allegations of anti semitism.
I’m despairing and don’t put all the blame with a right wing press, or a so called Blairite campaign to get JC out of his post as part leader. I wish it was so simple

Perfect example, attack a party member for daring to speak the truth about the road the party is being taken.

I seem to recall that when Tom Watson used parliamentary privilege to make claims about Leon Brittan relating to sexual abuse and contributed to several articles in which he described Brittan as "as evil a person as one could get", many people on Gransnet, including me, weren't so impressed.

Not only did Watson disgrace himself by making claims that had not been tested in Court but he also undermined and called into question any then current or potential lines of investigation into other sexual abuse cases.

Watson was very bullish when first challenged about his remarks but eventually had to issue a grovelling apology.

At the time, Nick Cohen wrote in The Guardian "When he hounded a dying man to his grave, Watson sank lower than the News of the World reporters he and Hacked Off once fought ..... In all fairness, and on the balance of evidence before us, I would say that Tom Watson’s career deserves to be destroyed right now."

Now Watson joins the throng - saying "the party risks becoming lost in a “vortex of eternal shame” unless it addresses the fears of the Jewish community on the subject." Jumping on an opportunistic bandwagon again - and pretty rich coming from someone whose behaviour has been far from exemplary.