Labour Party and anti semitism

Do not address me as ‘woman’ please, you really are offensive, accuse me of lying to the forum , address me as ‘woman’, I know Corbyn is leader of the Labour Party, I voted for him. Nothing emotional in my reply to you, unless you see truth as emotional OldMeg.

Yes, it does say much about you indeed Annie - or don’t you see the irony of your post ???

Another over emotional and rude post. Digging in muck! Really ... what kind of person uses language like that? Get a grip woman.

Your hatred of JC is obvious and blocks out any rational thought. He is the leader of the LP. Get over it!

How sad someone had to sink to personal insults , says much about that poster .

OldMeg, I take your post as accusing me of lying.

I admire Teresa May’s dignity, I find JRM amusing, I have always like Ken Clarke, I have never said I support their politics, you owe me an apology for accusing me of pretending to be a life long labour supporter, I never pretend to be anything , you dig in your muck , qshame on you for lying to defend Corbyn

There are divisions amongst Jewish people on this issue..in fact it would be anti-Semetic to suppose all Jews thought the same!
I have never compared the undermining of the Palestinian culture, the imprisoning of children, controlling and limiting movement of people and essential goods, confiscation of possessions and destruction of the means to make a living & of homes, humiliation of people at checkpoints, building a wall , acquiring Palestinian land illegally, disproportionate military responses to stone throwing, shooting & illegal killing of medics, journalists & unarmed protestors, preventing worship etc etc to the treatment of Jews in Germany. This is simply the treatment of Palestinian people today by the current Israeli government and its army.

Anniebach you are not fooling any discerning reader. This thread is just a cheap shot at JC because you simply don’t like him.

I remember reading somewhere that you admire Teresa May. I wish you would stop pretending to be a ‘life long Labour supporter’ and come clean.

If you’re not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.

Ian Austin speaks

www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/29/shocked-my-party-offending-jews-says-labour-mp-antisemitism-ian-austin

What did Palestine have to do with the wall mural Corbyn admired

Back to the LP?

Not as bad means exactly that, not as bad!

You still haven’t read trisher’s post PECS the question is
Not that the treatment to Palestinians is unfair/harsh ( it is) but that it equates to the same treatment meted out to Jews in Nazi Germany during the war years.It patently isn’t the same.

Though I accept the fact that you wouldn’t trisher

Jallima inhumanity to one's fellow man should not be tolerated or dismissed as 'not so bad' because they are not as hideous as other acts of inhumanity that have occurred.
The progroms and subsequent Holocaust were a very dreadful and hideous and so many lives are still affected by their family's experience. I sincerely hope we never see the like of it again against any group/race/religious faith etc. though sadly there have been many subsequent attempts across the world to annihilate people.
It is a fact that the Israeli Government has ignored the UN rulings about taking land they are not entitled to, child prisoners etc etc. This is inhumanity and is a way to undermine and repress the people in Palestine. UK/USA has singularly failed to support the UN rulings and so Israel continues to dehumanise the Palestinian culture, history and people.

I certainly would.

You might not Iam64 but would you deny a Palestinian the right to do so?

I didn't mention Jeremy Corbyn in my post. PECS I don't see him as a bad person either. I don't see him as a strong or electable leader of the LP but I accept that many other labour voters disagree with my views. I've no problem with that and given the current government, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and that the LP wins the next election.

trisher, I accept that some people have difficulty with the current definition of anti semitism. They seem to be in a minority world wide, if not with many in the LP which so far as I'm aware, is the only political party that set about re-writing it.
The treatment of the Palestinian people, the illegal settlements on the West Bank are unacceptable. So is the behaviour of many other governments in the Middle East. We expect more of the government in Israel, I expect better from the government in Israel.
I would never compare the Israeli government to Nazi's unless they took to attempting to totally wipe out every member of a faith

would you deny the right of a Palestinian to compare the treatment of his (or her) people with the treatment of the Jews by the Nazis?
Their treatment is appalling but they have not been sent to the gas chambers in an attempt at total extermination.

Being Jewish or a being someone who despises what is happening in the Labour Party at the moment does not equate with being Zionist.

The Momentum man attacked Ruth June 2016, he was expelled from the party April 2018. Didn’t rush did they , two years to investigate what was televised live.

Good post Iam64 and I believe you are right.

Corbyn may not be a bad man but he is a weak man surrounded by strong personalities, the inmates have taken over the asylum.Momentum and like minded people are eating away at the heart of the LP and this anti-semitic attitude is but one aspect of the arrogant and narrow mindedness now going on.

Corbyn dealt with it ? After shaking hands with the man minutes after he bullied Ruth ? Yep a hypocrite

Because I chose to Fennel and I do not read the conservative biased media, I know corbynites want it left buried, I choose to bring it into the open here, my choice as it is your choice to ignore it.

I respect Margaret Hodge, I have no respect for Corbyn because he is not an honest man. I voted for him because I thought he was honest, he betrayed by trust and the trust of many.

Wadsworth, the Momentum man who behaved despicably was investigated and was expelled from membership for bringing the Labour Party into disrepute on 27 April 2018.

JC dealt with it.

I disagree Pecs, this is no far right plot, so often Corbyn supporters have defended him for supporting the IRA, they claim he believes in speaking to all sides, rubbish , he only speaks to those he supports. When Shami gave her press announcement on her findings on anti semitism Ruth Smeeth was verbally attacked by a chap from Momentum, Ruth ran from the room crying, Corbyn just sat there and after they were finished he shooked hands with and chatted to Ruth’s attacker. This is the man you defend, this is the man I condemn as weak and a hypocrite .