Frank Field

So Corbyn lied trisher ?

The Labour Party is a democracy Trisher?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/18/revealed-how-increasingly-powerful-momentum-is-transforming-labour

So neither of you believe in proper investigation or in the concept that anyone is innocent until proved guilty. You would rather have headlines and media reports than evidence and facts?

trisher, you don’t know if there is anti semetism problem in the party?

May I help ?

Anti semetism is always a problem as is all racism

Corbyn apologised for anti semetism in the party , by the party he was referring to the Labour Party.

Corbyn said ‘we must drive anti semitism from the party for good. He was referring to the Labour Party.

He knows there is anti semetism in the party, Labour MP’s know there is anti semetism in the party,

Jewish MP’s have told of the racist abuse they endure

Hopes this helps you trisher

All views must chime with your own trisher I see.
Corbyn has admitted that there is a problem within the LP but you 'don't know'…...clear as mud then!

Trisher, I don’t want accusations of anti semitisam not to be resurrected, I want it to be shouted from the roof tops.
If it is to be investigated properly it must be kept in the public eye.

I don't know if there is an anti-semitism problem in the Labour Party lemon and neither I suspect do you. I am happy to leave the complaints that have made to a proper process of investigation. I have never been happy with an accusation of any nature being tried and convicted by press and media speculation.
Annie if Frank Field was unable to convince his constituency party of his right to vote according to his conscience that is a problem he needs to address. It's certainly not my job to judge him.
niggly a vote of 'no confidence' puts any MPs future in doubt regardless of age.
I'm happy for you to explain Frank Field's beliefs to me lemon I haven't said he has no right to them simply that I don't understand them.

All trisher says I heard in 1981 - 1983 , then a disastrous election loss followed by 14 years in the wilderness

the real problem with the present narrow way of thinking within the LP today is much as you illustrate trisher when you say that [of Frank Field] you find him 'difficult to understand'.In other words he doesn't follow others like a sheep.All goats will be weeded out, as they are not like sheep and may cause problems.

Fear for his future? at 76?!! I imagine his future is reasonably secure if it isn't now, it never will be!!!!

Frank Field should have gone against his beliefs? This is your political stance trisher? Seems it has change since you claimed and praised Corbyn for doing the same

be honest trisher….. you don't believe there is any antisemitism problem within the LP today, and every post you make on here proclaims that fact [even though you haven't actually said so in so many words.]
So, be clear?

I said it would be investigated lemon would you rather it wasn't? and people were just kicked out (isn't that a bit like....)

No one has been "weeded out" no one has been "deselected'. Some constituency parties are asking their MPs to account for their actions. Frank Field's constituency party took a vote of "No confidence" in him, because of his vote which kept the Tories in power. Now I wasn't at the meeting. I'm not a member of his constituency, but it does seem strange to me that when his local party are not supporting him he should then go on to resign the whip, and resurrect accusations of anti-semitism which are under investigation and which had slipped out of the news. At the best he has timed things badly at the worst he is trying to drum up support and sympathy in his constituency because he fears for his future. I really don't know which. I have mixed feelings about Frank Field. I believe in a Welfare state- he doesn't. He admired Thatcher-I don't. He wants to reduce child hunger-so do I.I really find him difficult to understand.

The Labour Party is not in the hands of socialists, the leader supports terrorists , lies, anti semetism, allows bullying, place Venezuela as a country the world can admire.

exactly Grandmashe and annie socialists are not the types that need to be weeded out of the LP, it's the others, Momentum and those of the same ilk.

139 labour MP’s opposed the Irac war and not one was de selected, that is socialism , disagree with Corbyn and the bullies are out, that is not socialism

Trisher, don’t you consider Frank Field to be a socialist?

aha! and there goes a poster who fits my post above.Who thinks anti Semitism doesn't exist within the LP and it is all ' a smear' is that what a socialist is, a fantasist?

Many of us were appalled when the Labour Party under Tony Blair took us into an illegal war where thousands of people died and which resulted in a backlash that is still killing people. Some demonstrated to try and prevent it. Then we voted with our feet and supported other parties. Now we have returned and there are those who still don't want us because we are socialists. Well tough. You can try all the slurs you want, you can believe a right wing press, you can think up conspiracy theories and allegations of bullying. All will be investigated. But what isn't going to happen is that the younger generation and the confiirmed socialist are going to go away. We've claimed back a socialist party.

yes, he would Grandmashe and many people feel the same way, others seek to dismiss it all as 'fake news' and 'anti Corbyn smears' [remind anyone of Donald?!]

Sorry sent to soon,
He would be appalled at the way his beloved Labour Party is dismissing anti semit behaviour.

They did Jalima, it effected him for the rest of his life.

As the daughter of a man who helped liberate one of the camps, and who never recovered from the terror of the sights he saw
Grandemashe Those kinds of sights would live with him forever.

I think that most of us are aware of these dreadful events trisher and that other groups were targeted but the point of the discussion is anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, not ethnic cleansing of other groups.

Incidently sterilisation of the disabled was practised in some USA states as well
If we're widening the discussion and getting away from the original OP (which I thought you had objected to on other threads) then a so-called 'civilised' country like Sweden practised eugenics until fairly recently.
Compulsory sterilisation in Sweden were sterilisations which were carried out in Sweden, without a valid consent of the subject, during the years 1906–1975 on eugenic, medical and social grounds. Between 1972 and 2012 sterilisation was also a condition for sex change.