Call off the dogs Corbyn

Well said in your posts Grandad1943.

I will add that reselection is part of the democratic process. I would think it is obvious that no-one could EXPECT to be a candidate, or MP, for life. Policies change and some MPs were always there and some move to there. The Party should be able to select it's best representative at any time.

There should also be immediate right of recall for both the Party and the electorate if a number of them feel they are not being properly represented by their MP.

And ... to save the MPs from becoming distanced from their constituents they should be on the average wage - but maybe not as low as the "living wage" some of them seem to think is adequate for "other families".

anniebach Quote [Labour the Broad Church went out of the front door when Corbyn/Momrntum went in through the back door.] End Quote

Nobody went in through the back door; they were all ELECTED into the positions they hold.

That came about when the Labour movement grassroots activists decided they were no longer prepared to accept being totally ignored and overruled but were still require to fund almost all the Labour parties entire expenditure

You can thank Blair & Co for that change and the end to the broad church thinking in those activists circles.

Annie if you really believe there was 'free speech' under Tony Blair you are barmy. Alistair Campbell has written about how he behaved his verbal outbursts and his bullying.

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And by the same token, Corbyn should avoided the media throughout his wilderness years.

Well Joan Ryan was classed as ' Core group negative ' on the hostile list !

As for Iranian t.v there has not been an issue or concern there with Corbyn so who knows how they weirdly thought that was even remotely a story.

Problem with free speech again trisher ?

Can you explain as someone who believes voices must not be heard -

How an Iranian tv channel banned in this country showed the constituency party meeting where a vote of no confidence in Joan Ryan was delivered and the tv channel described Joan as a pro Israel MP?

How did this happen ?

grumppa

' Might as well stitch up the media to be on the safe side.'

That is an aim that I hope never comes to fruition.

"They are free to think and speak as they want and disagree with any policies, but should do so away from the media."

Well said, Trisher. They can say what they like as nobody gets the chance to hear them. Might as well stitch up the media to be on the safe side.

How the hell is Labour a Broad Church when it a case of ' My way or the highway ' ??

trisher

So their being harassed and having to deal with abuse is not of interest but talking to the press is a no go.

I think that is a lot of the problem .

Labour is a broad church but just as the left wing MPs did when Blair won, those on the right of the party need to keep out of the media and let the left have a chance. And they are doing much more than Corbyn ever did they are undermining the party. They are free to think and speak as they want and disagree with any policies, but should do so away from the media. And anybody who knows anything about MPs under Blair knows that they were dominated and ruled by Alistair Campbell, someone known to act as a bully when he needed to.

Labour the Broad Church went out of the front door when Corbyn/Momrntum went in through the back door.

Since 2015 we have been posting about the bullying behaviour some Labour MP's have been suffering from their own party and Chuka Umuna has most certainly not said anything new .

The 2016 list known as Corbyns ' Hostile List ' is looking more and more like a good prediction as to who will be get a ' vote of no confidence ' and more than a slight chance of being deselected. From Frank Field, Chris Lesley, Luciana Berger, I could go on the stories have never been out of the news.

Labour MP's and councillors have been telling of the problems they are receiving and have been/are reporting hostilities and what they deem as bullying from within their own party. This has been refuted by the Jeremy for Leader / Momentum / Labour Party for over 2 years and they blame the right wing press and the Conservatives. That is just a cop out.

I think Chuka Umuna cannot fail to understand the abuse he will continue to have from those in the Jeremy for Leader/Momentum/Labour Party over his ' Call off the attack dogs ' comment. What have the MP's who do not literally tow the line have left or to look forward to other than deselection? They knew back then it was the aim of Corbyn and his inner circle from Momentum. Let's face it they are doing nothing more than what Corbyn himself did for decades but he is perversely deemed as the ' Conviction Politician ' the ' Man of Principal '. No he is not.

Whatever happened to the ' Labour is a Broad Church ' idea?

Oh dear, the unions support labour to get something back for themselves ? I knew that but thank you for confirming it grandad1943

I agree trisher , it was an aim .

It's still an 'aim' Annie and nothing to do with that government
Screening for breast cancer in England: past and future.

^Advisory Committee on Breast Cancer Screening.
Abstract^
The NHS Breast Screening Programme (NHSBSP) began in 1988. It aims to invite all women aged 50-70 years for mammographic screening once every three years. The programme now screens 1.3 million women each year, about 75% of those invited, and diagnoses about 10,000 breast cancers annually

If someone works in the gig economy which began in the Blair era, the minimum wage, sure start and and apprenticeships mean absolutely nothing to you.

Also many so-called modern apprenticeships consists of learning how to make a cup of coffee or create a burger for next to no wages.

So much for Blairs "gifts" to the trade unions that funded his and the Brown administration for twelve years.

I did say women 50 to 70 not 50 to 65

And your link trisher says ‘ aiming to “

Sorry much as I hate to give credit to the Tories for anything!
In 1985 Mr. Kenneth Clarke, then Minister of Health, convened an expert committee chaired by Professor Sir Patrick Forrest, known as the 'Forrest Committee', to report on the effectiveness of screening for breast cancer, and how a screening programme would work in this country.

The committee presented its report to ministers in 1986, and concluded that ‘screening by mammography can lead to prolongation of life for women aged 50 and over. There is a convincing case on clinical grounds for a change in UK policy on the provision of mammographic facilities and the screening of symptomless women.’

The NHS Breast Screening Programme was established in March 1987 and began inviting women in 1988, at that time aiming to offer routine mammographic screening to each woman in the UK aged 50-64 once every three years.

Because grandad you said the Blair government did nothing for trade union members ,

Minimum wage.

Brought in paternity leave

Sure Start

The right for full time workers to receive 24 days paid holidays.

Introduced child tax credits

Free breast screen scanning for women 50 to 70

More than doubled apprenticeships

And more,

but did nothing for trade union members ?

Now you say the present Labour Party will put unions first, how silly, they have no choice ,

Where does you wonderings take you Grandad1943. I haven’t read a post where a poster has said they hold no support for the trade union movement .

anniebach quote[ And all union members during the Blair government were Male, single and childless . ?] End quote

I and I am sure many more who read the above post will have great difficulty in understanding the meaning of that statement. Also the make up of trade union members in the Blair era was nothing like as stated.

MaizieD, I agree that the 2008 finance crisis was an international event. However, London was even then a significant centre for the banking and finance industry. Questions were asked in the years before the crash took place in regarding the lack of effective regulation surrounding the city.

I may be wrong but believe it was Gordon Brown in his role as chancellor who stated to the media that the city would "not tolerate" further legislation being placed on it.

If it was not Gordon Brown who said that it was undoubtedly someone senior in the Blair administration.