The Last Days of Mrs May?

MaizeD you forgot Communism in USSR and China or maybe you view them as ideal societies, National Socialism, Venezuela today, USA under Trump, Cuba under Castro, Zimbabwe under Mugabe and a whole lot more extremists.

I well remember the 1970s when the unions ruled the country, when Scargill, McGahey, Robinson, Gormley and Jones brought the UK to its knees. I rate them as extremists and they probably did more damage to working communities than WW2. Thatcher was elected and utterly destroyed the unions, along with the mining, shipbuilding, steel and car industries, it was a foreseeable consequence of the misuse of power.

The Labour Party is now being run by left wing activists and the views expressed by the Closet Communists on the platform and the floor do not resonate with a lot of labour voters or even MPs, let alone win any more votes from the centre of the electorate.

What is wrong with 'extreme radical viewsl?

Abolition of slavery was an extreme radical view, universal suffrage was an extreme radical view, universal education was an extreme radical view. (Etc. Etc.)

Don't any of you know anything about social history?

Diana would you like to post any of what you consider to be Extreme radical views? Or is it just a term you picked up somewhere and are you actually referring to the socialist society established in 1945 which underpinned most of our formative years and which is now being steadily unpicked?

Double disaster for May as poll finds 80% of Tory members think she should go before the next election while another reveals most investors do not think a Brexit deal will be done in time

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6219035/Poll-80-Tory-members-want-Theresa-gone-election.html

‘Extreme radical views equal chaos’ ......how very true Diana

The extremists in a my political party are not brain dead, they are idealists who have completely unrealistic ideas of what can be achieved within a certain time or at a certain cost. The benefits of Brexit are being grossly exaggerated, any proposed advantages are largely emotional, economically there is a big downside.
If the Scots want independance, it's an emotional choice, there is no way they are going to benefit economically but of course emotions are high now, any economic consequences are in the future.
Extreme radical views equal chaos, those proposing them are only interested in power for themselves they don't care what happens to the bulk of the population and are willing to intimidate the population to retain power.
I have a very long list of despots from the 100 yrs but you all know who they are, to thrive a nation needs a moderate leader and I did not see anyone who matched that at the Labour Conference.

one of my favourite bits!

agreed

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Parasite-an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense. So arguably all MPs are parasites
Brain Dead-complete loss of brain function (including involuntary activity
Bigoted- unreasonably attached to a belief,
So although some SNP members (or those in charge) may be bigoted they are unlikely to be Brain Dead -I think that would have been spotted even in the House of Lords!

But it's ok to refer to Tory politicians at Westminster as parasites?!!

Another one who doesn’t read posts properly!
Look OldMeg read the post above mine ( paddyann)
For the ‘bigoted and brain dead’ at Westminster quote.
Also I didn’t write SNP members but ‘those in charge’.
There are plenty of opinions other than mine on here including many of your own.
Put away your outrage.

How dare you call members of the SNP ‘bigoted and brain dead Lemongrove. You have no idea what you are talking about. It seems that no one is allowed to have their own ipinions amd beliefs, because yours are the only ones that matter.

And name-calling is the extent of your ability to discuss politics.

Disgraceful

What will they have if they leave the Union but don’t join the EU ?? The Thistle has a nice ring to it.

I read that one of the reasons Scotland voted against leaving the uk and then joining the eu independently was because they would have to join the euro.
BTW. All countries who join after 2020 will have to accept the euro.

I've just been reading why de Gaulle blocked our joining, twice.
The eu were still working on the CAP policy. When it was 'worked out' (read fiddled) that france would be the biggest recipient, and still is, he welcomed us with open arms.

Tell that to our fishermen! I'm sure it'll be a comfort to them! Good luck to Scotlands fishermen in the event of individual membership of the EU.

‘A huge chunk of our revenue....and giving us pocket money back’ yep! Sounds like the EU.

paddyann, where do you those laws from Westminster originate from? The EU!

I rather think that paddy is too intelligent to be sucked in by this nonsense, nelly, though I think her figure of 5% is probably a bit low.

And I won't say more than repeat the fact that the UK has made a very significant contribution to the framing of EU law over the years.

Yes Cornwall is in England, they are another region that aspires to independence and indeed have their own language.

My very tongue in cheek point is the UK has welcomed large movements in people since the start of the industrial revolution, around 200 yrs, many have been from within the Btitish Isles, more recently from outside.
We need them all skilled and unskilled, if our own citizens don't want to do certain work, Care work, cleaning, truck driving and a whole lot more, at present migrants can be found to do the work but don't make them unwelcome our economy and essential services depend on them.

If Scotland does get independance they will be subject to the stupid migration rules as well.

paddyann, where do you those laws from Westminster originate from? The EU! Do you seriously think that an independent Scotland won't be subjected to EU law? You'll be in exactly the same position as other small EU countries. You'll have to use the Euro s part of the deal and no doubt contribute to the future EU army. You may well think yourselves free and independent, but just like the others you'll be sucked in to become part of a federal state and all that entails. Well, good luck with all that, and rest assured that unlike the EU, we in England won't attempt to stand in your way, in fact it'll be a case of goodbye and good luck, you'll need it!

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Who has said we should do without any immigrants at all?
Nobody on here.

isn't Cornwall in England?

Diana54 where would you draw the line then? Two of my DSs have worked in London, were they migrants? Personally I would be quite happy to join with Scotland and stay in the EU. We could perhaps charge all those hen and stag parties coming up from the South for the cheap booze a nice bit of tax for coming here.
This idea that we can or even should try to do without immigrants is ridiculous. There are huge ties with the EU in so many areas and the people who will suffer the most as the funding is with drawn are ourselves. This is already happening in the arts and education. The application of the Erasmus funding is already under threat and many in education think it will fail.
Applicants are warned
For British applicants: Please be aware that eligibility criteria must be complied with for the entire duration of the grant. If the United Kingdom withdraws from the EU during the grant period without concluding an agreement with the EU ensuring in particular that British applicants continue to be eligible, you will cease to receive EU funding (while continuing, where possible, to participate) or be required to leave the project.’
In other words you might be left high and dry!