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Jacob Rees Mogg

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oldbatty Wed 12-Sept-18 13:43:48

I don't think it was fair to target his children but they don't really seem like ordinary folk do they?

Nicenanny3 Tue 23-Oct-18 15:07:04

I like and support him even more now.

Nandalot Tue 23-Oct-18 15:01:17

Thank you, Varian, for a factual account of JRM’s voting record. I think it makes it absolutely clear what his views on society are.

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 14:54:07

JRM is a politician and as such his opinions have more influence than yours or mine in that they determine the way he votes on proposed legislation. Consider his voting record. You may agree with him on some points but the overall record is extremely right-wing. He wants to make the rich richer, the poor poorer and repeal laws on human rights.

Rees Mogg voted in favour of the ‘bedroom tax’ 16 times between 2012-2014. Voted against raising welfare benefits five times in 2013. Voted against higher benefits over long periods for those unable to work as a result of an illness or disability: 14 votes over 5 years. Between 2012-2016 Rees-Mogg voted 52 times to reduce the spending on welfare benefits.

Voted against same sex marriage in February and May 2013. He also voted against courts dealing with same sex divorces or annulments in March 2014. He also voted against making same sex marriage available to armed forces personnel serving abroad in March 2014.

Voted to exempt pubs and clubs where food is not served from the smoking ban in October 2010. He also voted against a law to make private vehicles smoke-free if a child is present.

Voted to repeal the Human Rights Act 1998 in December 2012. He voted to repeal it again in May 2016. In April 2013 he voted to remove the duty on the Commission for Equality and Human Rights. This duty sought to support a society where human potential was not limited by prejudice or discrimination.

Rees-Mogg has voted consistently to replace Trident with a new nuclear weaponry system. Rees-Mogg also voted against an investigation into the Iraq War in 2016. He has also voted for military action against Daesh three times between 2014 and 2015.

Jacob Rees-Mogg has voted against UK membership of the EU 11 times. He has also voted against additional EU integration over the course of 2010-17.

Over 5 years, Rees-Mogg voted 23 times for raising the threshold at which people start to pay income tax. Has almost always voted for increasing VAT, higher taxes on alcohol and plane tickets. Has voted for higher taxes on banks more than against, but has almost always voted against a tax on banker’s bonuses. Has voted against the ‘mansion tax’ four times.

Voted against allowing terminally ill people to given assistance in ending their lives in 2015.

Voted to raise the undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000. Voted in favour of tuition fees five times between 2010 and 2017. Voted for academy schools 11 times between 2010-2016.

Jacob Rees-Mogg has consistently voted in favour of a stricter asylum system and stronger enforcement of immigration rules. He has also voted in favour of mass retention of communications data five times (and one vote against), as well as voting in favour of mass surveillance three times.

inews.co.uk/news/lets-take-look-jacob-rees-moggs-voting-record/

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 14:49:06

I believe life starts at conception

The 12 year old raped then pregnant is used so much to try to justify an attack on a persons faith, for me it means the child is being used yet again this time as a weapon

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Oct-18 14:40:27

He is not stopping her having a termination Varian. He expressed his opinion that life commences with conception, as do many others.

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 14:36:47

Would any compassionate person condemn a twelve year old girl who has been raped by a violent stranger to going through a nine month pregnancy?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Oct-18 14:27:45

Many disagree with abortion and same sex marriage.

Muslims and the Bible Belt of USA for starters.

Faith means different things to each person, to judge someone on their religion is not something I am comfortable with.

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 14:19:48

Being against abortion or not agreeing with same sex marriage are not foul opinions , how nasty

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 14:14:28

I did not say that, nor did I imply it petra. JRM tries to disguise his foul opinions with a superficial politeness. Some of his associates use different words, foul words, which more accurately display their thoughts.

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 14:14:20

varian, you quoted from a newspaper and did not express any disagreement with the quote, why post it?

petra Tue 23-Oct-18 14:08:08

varian
Why don't you come right out and say it that you think it's JRM that used that awful language instead of these very thinly disguised insinuations.
Or maybe you thought that nobody would notice.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Oct-18 14:07:21

I respect him for sticking to his principles and religious beliefs.

He is not imposing them on others, but when questioned gives "his opinions and the reasons behind them". Unlike some members of parliament who give answers they think the interviewer and general public want to hear!!!, and change their opinions at the drop of a hat!!

For the record we have 5 children, all with old fashioned names as have our GC, I do not go to spec savers and generally listen to radio 2.

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 14:04:08

Annie you wrote - "Varian the number of children he has and the names chosen for them , his faith, has nothing to do with politics. Why repeat them?"

I have never mentioned the number of his children, what he calls them or his faith, only his vile opinions and his hypocracy in opening an office in Dublin to take advantage of EU membership which he tries to take from the rest of us.

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 13:30:16

Exactly Jennifer

JenniferEccles Tue 23-Oct-18 13:18:54

Surely it's perfectly possible to like and respect JRM yet disagree with him on some points.

His views on abortion and gay marriages are completely in line with his religious beliefs.

Unfortunately there will always be those (of a socialist leaning mostly) who seem to dislike him purely because he had a good education and speaks properly.

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 13:04:23

YesNandalot . He believes all abortion is wrong, some believe abortion on demand is right. There is no political plans to change the law so his beliefs are his

Nandalot Tue 23-Oct-18 12:45:59

Annie, on a “Good Morning, Britain” interview he was asked if his opposition of abortion applied in cases such as rape and he said, ”I am afraid so”.

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 12:18:42

I will not go to Spec Savers.

Chewbacca Tue 23-Oct-18 12:17:22

I listen to Radio 3 Jalima. I'm doomed, arent I?

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 12:17:12

Unbelievable Chewbacca

Chewbacca Tue 23-Oct-18 12:15:53

Can't believe JRM is still being pilloried for the number of children he has, or what he's chosen to call them. His political stance, ok. But his children and their names? confused

Anniebach Tue 23-Oct-18 12:11:46

Varian the number of children he has and the names chosen for them , his faith, has nothing to do with politics. Why repeat them?

He doesn’t support same sex marriage, I too have problems with this, I fully support legal partnership for same sex couples but I do not know if I would be comfortable with Same sex couples exchanging marriage vows at the alter, and I repeat - ‘ I do not know’ not ‘ I am against’

Jalima1108 Tue 23-Oct-18 11:06:08

Annie I have heard JRM say all of these things more than once when interviewed on radio and tv.
Have you heard him say that what he believes should become law in this country varian and that, if it was within his power, he would ensure that?

varian Tue 23-Oct-18 10:59:45

Annie I have heard JRM say all of these things more than once when interviewed on radio and tv.

Nothing wrong with classical music and not going to Specsavers, that was just one writer's way of describing him. It would not be mine.

Jalima1108 Tue 23-Oct-18 10:42:46

He must go to some optician Anniebach - but perhaps he doesn't like the interminable queues in Specsavers where he could be in danger of being called 'a thug'.

He is entitled to his views as a Roman Catholic and entitled to express them - he doesn't say that they should become law.
You are entitled to your views too, varian and are entitled to express them, whether or not others agree with them.