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The Hit List 2016

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Anniebach Thu 13-Sept-18 20:20:02

Posting this for anyone who may wish to tick off names , easy to bring up if and when needed .

labourlist.org/2016/03/leaked-list-ranks-labour-mps-by-hostility-to-corbyn/

nightowl Fri 14-Sept-18 11:28:35

Could I ask GNHQ to consider the thread title alone, irrespective of any views expressed on it. The list was drawn up in 2016 at a time when the present LP leader was facing the threat of challenges to his leadership. It was clearly an attempt to show where he could expect the challenges to arise and where he could expect to obtain support.

To then call this a ‘hit list’, after one of the MPs on the list was brutally murdered is in very poor taste and I for one find it deeply offensive. I’m not sure who first called it a ‘hit list’ and I will give the OP the benefit of the doubt on that score (although I personally would not have repeated it), but for this alone I would like to see the thread deleted.

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 11:31:54

Heitage Open Days Jalima lots of properties and sites open for free from 13th-16th. There is a website.

Chewbacca Fri 14-Sept-18 11:33:25

and chewing tobacco have always found a disgusting habit confused

How old are you? Let's not discuss the issue raised, let's hurl silly childish insults and swear at each other. Feels like I've wandered into infant school sometimes.

Devorgilla Fri 14-Sept-18 11:38:14

GNHQ please do not delete this thread. Delete the offensive posts or block the offenders from the thread.
AB I would have found it far more offensive if you had removed her name from the list.

nigglynellie Fri 14-Sept-18 11:39:13

Can I add my voice too in support of this thread, as the majority of us enjoy rational discussion and can put forward different points of view without using foul/abusive language to make ourselves understood. Perhaps just offensive posts can be removed after an appropriate warning, not the whole thread?!

lemongrove Fri 14-Sept-18 11:39:57

Yes, the list was drawn up two years ago to show where Corbyn could find support or not, but as events are showing,
moderate LP MP's are being intimidated and harassed by activists who are working to try and get them deselected.

Anniebach Fri 14-Sept-18 11:49:52

Thank you all who accept the truth as to why I started this thread .

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 11:55:53

Evidence? lemon. Lists have been much mentioned on this and other threads. It appears the only one to be found is one said by Rupert Murdoch's newspaper to come from Corbyn's office over 2 years ago. It's not only out of date, it probably never existed anyway, except in the mind of some enterprising Murdoch hack.

LauraGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 14-Sept-18 11:57:56

Thanks for your responses. We don't like to remove threads and it's good to see that discussion is moving on here.

Anniebach Fri 14-Sept-18 12:01:22

Thank you LauraGransnet

MawBroon Fri 14-Sept-18 12:02:12

labourlist.org/2016/03/leaked-list-ranks-labour-mps-by-hostility-to-corbyn/

Is labourlist.org a publication owned by Rupert Murdoch?
It doesn’t sound like it to me?

Anniebach Fri 14-Sept-18 12:04:54

What is of interest is those listed in the negative lists, several now face deselection.

Some have said at different times , on different threads, why centre left MP’s remain silent, this list give an explanation perhaps?

MawBroon Fri 14-Sept-18 12:06:05

Post hoc ergo propter hoc?

Anniebach Fri 14-Sept-18 12:07:34

Thank you Maw, I was so distressed by the tone of disapproval which followed I forgot it came from Labour List. Duh

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 12:09:15

MawBroon It's just an example that you need to read the article and not just the headlines. About half way down
The Times claims the list comes from a member of staff from the leader’s office and was written in January.
Followed by
A spokesperson for Corbyn denied responsibility for the list, telling The Times: “It doesn’t come from this office and we have no knowledge of it”
Now forgive me but a list leaked by the Times doesn't have as much clout as one with an authorised and open source which as I have already said no-one seems to have been able to come up with. Just rumours and allegations. And this one isn't worth the paper it was written on (nor is the Times usually, if you want unbiased reporting)

MawBroon Fri 14-Sept-18 12:14:49

Sorry Trisher but clicking the link does not take me to a Times article, but a website called labourlist.org. confused

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 12:18:30

Yes it is Labour List MawBroon but the article contains the words I have posted. No link to the Times necessary. The words are there. The Times claims it is one thing. Corbyn's office denies it. There is no evidence for the truth of the list.

Jalima1108 Fri 14-Sept-18 12:20:03

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Jalima1108 Fri 14-Sept-18 12:21:30

Oh, bloomin' heck, I didn't mean to copy and paste all that!
Sorry!

and thankstrisher re HODS

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 12:24:09

I know the site. The point is the article contains statements that cast doubt on the origins of the list and its veracity, something most people don't seem to have bothered to read.

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 12:25:28

You're welcom Jalima I wish I'd started a thread about it so more people knew. Bit late now. It's a fantastic event with so much to see and do. And all for free!!!

Jalima1108 Fri 14-Sept-18 12:33:12

I did read it - but why did LabourList reproduce it in full?

And state Allies of Jeremy Corbyn have drawn up a secret list ranking Labour MPs according to the loyalty to the party leader.
Not allegedly or 'according to the Times'

LabourList merely repeated what Corbyn's office said too about the source of the list..
The Times claims the list comes from a member of staff from the leader’s office and was written in January.
A spokesperson for Corbyn denied responsibility for the list, telling The Times: “It doesn’t come from this office and we have no knowledge of it”

iyswim
There is a difference

Anniebach Fri 14-Sept-18 12:38:40

A spokesperson for Corbyn said ?

To misquote “ they would say that wouldn’t they”

Chewbacca Fri 14-Sept-18 13:00:38

Why are those, who are outraged that Jo Cox is named on the list, trying to airbrush her out? Does history have to be rewritten to make it palatable?

trisher Fri 14-Sept-18 13:01:23

And the Times has no vested interest Annie? I do wonder about Labour List. I suppose it is possibke that in 2016 they were dominated by Blairites and hoped to get rid of Corbyn. It still doesn't give any credence to the list. It has as much as Blair's dodgy dossier.