Someone didn’t do his homework .

The gig economy works well for some....mainly people at either end of their working life. My DD worked for McDonalds whilst at Uni and enjoyed being able to pick and choose her hours. I know a couple of semi retired people who do similar. Not much fun when you have a young family, mortgage and debts to pay though is it? Never sure of how many hours you will get day by day.

Oh the Gabriella one.... where did I mention your name Annie ? I was referring to my dear late grandma..., who Im sure truly believed that if she didn't put her money in a packet for Father to collect then she might not get in to heaven ! and collect it he did until the day before she died.

Can you please point out where I am supposed to have agreed with this statement please Annie ?

gilly, I assure you I do not live with guilt or need the crutch of absolution from someone in fancy dress

I have been through the entire thread.....

I don't always read it all

another confession.

Yes Jalima. It is always good when people read the thread before putting their ore in, saves a lot of duplication and improves the discussion

Seems only a couple of people read what Maw said about the gig economy
I did and I responded

Yes, I agree Nonnie

When I had a very small investment myself when I was working I made sure it was in ethical companies. However, I don't have a private pension so presumably my pension comes from the tax payer.

I wonder how many realise that when they complain about business profits they are complaining about themselves? If you have a private pension, any kind of insurance etc. you are being funded by institutions which invest in business.
I have made that point before.
I am not against businesses making profits whatsoever - the law needs to be changed to make sure that a proportionate and fair amount of tax is paid and that they do not use dodgy practices to evade tax.

However, the whole business ethos of Wonga was wrong, wrong, wrong.

I don't stand in the pulpit preaching what others should do - but I do expect higher standards than this from the established Church and I will say so.

gilly, you agreed with a poster who said it, as you agreed it must be your views. I respect you atheism , pity you cannot return the same respect to me.

I buy from Amazon because of the convenience of delivery ( almost always to my place of work ) and the price . No shares with them though .

I buy everything from Amazon, I cannot get to shops, I contacted people who advertised their time , cleaning, shopping etc,

getting me plant food for my indoor garden £20. collect puppy food from vet, £20. I need Amazon.

Sadly I do not have a private pension so don’t have to worry about ethical investments. I agree the tax loop holes enjoyed by the likes of amazon need sorting out but that would mean less for their shareholders like Mr Welbys employers .

Good post Nonnie , well said

Good post Nonnie

Seems only a couple of people read what Maw said about the gig economy. A couple of years ago I read that 70% of those on zero hours contracts were doing so because they wanted to. There were a lot of students who fitted their hours around their lectures and there are other reasons for choosing these jobs.

All this stuff about Amazon, if you don't like it stop using them! They haven't broken any laws, they pay what the law says they should. Yes, this needs changing but it is very complicated to do so and requires cooperation from many other countries. I hope the C of E is trying to change from within.

I wonder how many realise that when they complain about business profits they are complaining about themselves? If you have a private pension, any kind of insurance etc. you are being funded by institutions which invest in business. If they don't make a profit you lose out! No, I'm not excusing bad practice, just trying to point out that it isn't as simple as blaming 'them'. If companies didn't make a profit we would all be worse off.

gilly, I assure you I do not live with guilt or need the crutch of absolution from someone in fancy dress

You have no need to assure me of anything regarding your faith Annie and I have never suggested the above. You know how I feel about religion ( we have discussed it in the past) . I do have strong moral values but I am yet to be convinced of the existence of a God .

True Jalima

Of course, I forgot Anniebach

He didn't own a donkey
Or have shares in Wonga or Amazon

Being an atheist is a cop out for some, don’t believe in scriptures but quick to quote them .

His parents had a donkey. He borrowed a donkey on one occasion,

Perhaps you'd all be happier if he cycled everywhere in rags... and lived in a squat..
Rather like The One upon whom the church was founded, metaphorically speaking, of course, as He would not have had a bike, just a donkey.

gilly, I assure you I do not live with guilt or need the crutch of absolution from someone in fancy dress .

The hypocrites are those who pull on their judgey pants and forget the advice "Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone"

I confess - I am sinful.

But I expected better from the Archbishop of Canterbury, symbolic head of Anglicans the world over.

The hypocrites are those who call out the Archbishop while being perfectly happy to use the company he mentioned

But I don't stand in the pulpit denouncing those from whom I get any income as he does ……
'He who pays the piper'

Maizie No hypocracy on my or or on many others part, I think on here.I use Amazon regularly and am not moaning about it at all.If they need their taxes putting up, that is for the tax laws to deal with.For the customer they offer a really good service.A vast choice of goods, fast delivery and convenience for people (especially) who live in rural areas.
Welby really doesn’t despise Amazon ( he uses it) but he is jumping onto a fashionable bandwagon.
Congregations of churches often disagree with pronouncements from on high from various clerics over the years.

MaizieD
Let's not forget who set up Amazons very lucrative tax arrangements: the president of the eu: Jean Claude Juncker.