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trisher, you are loyal to the communism party, we are bound to disagree , union power is people power? 14% of workers in the private sector are members of unions, union membership is dropping, will you want to make joining unions compulsory?

annie it is not the fault of the unions (or the labour party) if membership is low - if people don't like union policies they should join; otherwise unions are valid spokespeople for the trade they represent, whether you like it or not.

Of course anniebach as a closet conservative would only be to happy to see the trade unions wiped out. However, they are still more than six million strong and keeping true democracy alive in this country by funding the Labour party.

But then again as a closet conservative annie would without doubt wish to see the destruction of the Labour party also.

Oh dear Annie, not only a closet Conservative but you're now a Facist!! Even I haven't been called that!! Mind you accusing me of belonging to Ukip sometime ago was a step in that direction!! Why you people on the left cannot seem to get it through your heads that annie doesn't support the far left of the Labour party, anymore than I support the far right of the Tory party. This, surprise, surprise, does not mean that either of us cease to support the 'party' as a whole, just the way it's leaning, which in a democracy (?!!) we on all sides are entitled to do without incurring endless sneers and name calling. Why do you people keep up this relentless nonsense? It's horrible and you should be ashamed!

Ashamed, annie has just applauded the decline of the trade unions in this thread. They are a key element of the Labour movement. No trade unions, no Labour party.

It is anniebach that should be ashamed.

Anyway back to work, will debate later.

No trade unions - no paymasters running a government

No more calls for a national strike

No risk of another Lord being kept in his job by union power even though a public enquiry found The Lord had been ‘ecconomical with the truth and bereaved families suffering because of this.

I went for a job at a big Fleet Street newspaper just after I had left school, I got the job.

The offer was rescinded 1 week later as I did not want to join the union and apparently it was a "closed shop".

Haven't been a fan since, I can remember 3 day weeks, fuel shortages, postal strikes and generally holding the country and government to ransom.

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Calling people names gets you nothing but derision G.d. Surely you are articulate enough not to have to resort that sort of cat calling?!
I too remember those days G.G, Red Robo comes to mind, but worse than that was the in ability to bury the dead, truly shocking and put me off socialism and trade unions for life!!

Trisher, I have just reported your dreadful post about annie

Miners strike. Russia gave £1,000,000 to the Welsh miners.

Arthur Scargill , formely a member of the communist party placed the money in a Dublin Bank, he refused to pay it back, used some to pay for renovations to his own home.

Some miners in Wales lost their homes, some lost their lives

1993 Scargill tried to buy his Barbican flat through ‘right to buy ‘ refused because it was his 2nd home ! .

After stepping down as Union leader Arthur became active in the U.K. Stalin Party, he said ‘ the ideas of Marx, Engels,Lenin and Stalin explained the real world.

A long standing friend of Corbyn, he formed The Socialist Labour .party !

Grandmashe43 ????

Momentum Tatics, bully you way through ?

Not calling names nigglynellie, purely stating the fact that anniebach is a closet Tory hiding under a myth of Labour party supporter.

Annie has no empathy whatsoever with the present day Labour movement or party. She will not even condemn the Gig Economy that one in five British workers are trapped in and so cripples the trade union movement and companies that wish to offer reasonable employment terms to employees.

Disgusting.

Not calling names ? Let me think, I am a turd ? according to the union spokesman who doesn’t do name calling. ?

Oh and I am despised by the Labour Party, they still take my money , have asked me to canvass for the Welsh Labour Leaders contest . And when I recover from a illness I now have, a dinner will be held for me to thank me for my work for the Labour Party for over fifty years. ?

Not everyone is unhappy with the gig economy. Some people find the flexibility an asset in their busy lives. One size doesn't necessarily fit all and in any case why should Annie have to condemn it just because you and your ilk say so?! Surely it's not obligatory?!
So what in fact you're saying G.d, is that the new improved LP cannot countenance any criticism in any shape or form and yet I've always understood that the LP is a broad church encompassing every spectrum of the Labour movement? How can this be if freedom of thought is suppressed? Surely it would be better to try to persuade people of the virtues and benefits of a left wing government instead of using insults and bullying when these qualities are called into question? Calling annie names, using the word 'disgusting' when commenting on her views, is hardly going to make Annie change her attitude or convert anyone else!

Anyway back to work, will debate later

Oh is that what you call it Grandad?
Memo , don’t bother.

Debate? We had a debating group in school, foul language would have not been allowed and one side not allowed to go on and on and on.

niggly, it’s what Corbyn claimed he was bringing to the party, ‘ a gentler politics’ , not to the fore with truth is Corby .

I was actually wondering what grandad1943 was doing in the 1970s
Me I was too busy having babies to worry about politics

Gosh! And I thought us women could multitask.

I had my babies in the 70s too. Didn’t stop me being a full time person.

I had my babies 1969, 1970, I certaintly didn’t go out to work.

Didn't stop me thinking about politics either, oldmeg

I had my two in 1965 and 1968. No question of going out to work even if child care existed which it didn't. I loved being at home with them and would not have wanted even my dearly loved mother to look after them which in any case was hardly practical as we lived in Cornwall/Dorset in those far off days!!. Ok we didn't have much in the way of 'things' and what we did were usually hand me downs including a broom!!! but we were happy and more importantly contented.

Can't say that I gave politics a seconds thought!!!