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Anniebach Fri 21-Sept-18 10:43:32

According to Labour List the three big issues set to dominate the conference this year.

1. Rule Changes. 2. Anti semitism. Brexit.

1. Comes under the democracy review proposals (plus open parlimentary selections ) another round which will be discussed and voted on by the NEC on Saturday.

2. Will likely crop up at fringe events !!!!

3. Mainly revolves around the idea of a second referendum
- termed ‘ a people’s vote’ by its advocates - and could change Labour .policy dramatically.

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 19:31:13

Well then nigglynellie, perhaps anniebach should refrain from constantly returning to me as a "bloke" or "union man", "union spokesperson" or other disparaging remarks.

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 19:35:15

Some on this forum may well be liked for the rubbish they post; others though are not so gullible.

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 19:35:37

My sentence on trade union members was in a discussion on the Blair government where the poster who admits I am ‘a Huge target’ said nothing was done for union members ,

I posted of minimum wage, paternity pay, sure start etc,

Does it now follow if nothing was done for union members they had to be male, single and childless ?

nigglynellie Fri 28-Sept-18 19:36:30

What are you then G.d?! How on earth can calling someone a bloke, union man/spokesperson be disparaging? Hardly on a par with being a closet Tory, or a turd!!

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 19:40:32

Grandad are you ashamed of your devotion to unions? Are you not a union member, not a man, you cannot claim you are not a union spokesperson when you post endlessly about unions and the good they do, as for ‘bloke’ you consider this disparaging? You who called posters turds, granted you had been working in sewers that day.

nigglynellie Fri 28-Sept-18 20:01:56

Who are you to judge who posts rubbish G.d? Some of think the same of you it may surprise you to know!

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 20:02:18

Evidence, please anniebach. The Aberfan disaster took place 52 years ago, and no one could be brought to justice outside of those who actually worked on those tips because the legislation was not in place to bring forward prosecutions beyond that.

The tragedy played a huge part in bringing about the Health & Safety at Work Act (HASAWA) in 1974 were Lord Robens played a huge role in placating Conservative opposition to the act becoming legislation in parliament.

That Act is the largest tribute any nation could pay to those children who lost their lives in tragedy for it has reduced workplace accidents by 86% since it came into being

All the above has been explained to you anniebach previously, but you seem to obsessed with just Robens part in the disaster when there was at that time no way he could be brought before the courts for any role he had in the tragedy.

Grandad1943 Fri 28-Sept-18 20:06:27

nigglynellie, many may see what you post on this forum as total rubbish.

Each to his or her own view.

nigglynellie Fri 28-Sept-18 20:12:44

There you go Annie, you're not the only one!! Best ignored really!

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 20:13:01

Rubbish, those dead children and their families, needed justice , my uncle went to work in hoovers that morning, his wife died in the family home and his two sons in the school, no children, no wife, no house, you talk of a bloody tribute , justice was wanted, justice denied thanks to the unions.

MawBroon Fri 28-Sept-18 20:18:05

bloke , union man , union spokesperson
or other disparaging remarks

How in the name of the wee man do those terms count as disparaging? .

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 20:20:19

Do not explain anything about the Aberfan disater to me , I was there , I lived there, I was in the chapel where they placed the little bodies, I was at the funeral , i was at the enquiry. After the unions saved Robens job some men took their own lives, union members betrayed by unions,

But it was ‘an event ‘ for you, a birth is an event , a death is not an event. Do we refer to Grenfell towers as an ‘event’ ?

Why not

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Sept-18 20:37:02

There have been many studies of homeless people, some are there because of job loss, because of family fall outs, some due to addiction and some because they would rather be there with their "homeless families" than any where else.

I have faith in god, what has that got to do with politics. I believe that anyone can become what they want to be with time, determination and passion for what they want/believe.

From what I have seen in the political threads, those speak out compassion are showing themselves up to be the least compassionate to other posters.

trisher Fri 28-Sept-18 20:58:04

Many studies, many reasons,too many excuses. Shelter on the true figures for homelessness
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUbKZkry_Zs
I will be as compassionate to other posters GG13 as they are to those who cannot speak on this thread for themselves that is the rough sleepers being fed by soup kitchens.

lemongrove Fri 28-Sept-18 21:24:27

Well said GrannyG ??

Grandad43 yes, people may think what you post on the forum is total rubbish too, each to his or her own view indeed ;)

lemongrove Fri 28-Sept-18 21:25:14

trisher...you are a positive saint ( haha)

Anniebach Fri 28-Sept-18 21:53:08

Do stop using the homeless as a reason to make personal jibes Trisha

trisher Sat 29-Sept-18 09:39:24

Annie having denied soup kitchens exist now and having dismissed them feeding homeless people as ^ do not compare feeding the homeless now with feeding families in the general strike^ you now seem to be objecting to any mention of the homeless. What is it? Does the shocking reality of some people's lives in 2018 upset you?

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 11:11:16

I have no problem with mentioning the homeless or concern for the homeless, I dislike the use of the homeless as a weapon.

trisher Sat 29-Sept-18 11:56:37

How is telling the truth "using them as a weapon" Annie?
I repeat you said there are no soup kitchens, there are. They are feeding the homeless, which apparenntly you didn't know.
GG13 posted about the causes of homelessness. I posted a link which explains the true extent of the problem much of which is hidden.
I then was asked to be compassionate towards posters on GN and I said I would show as much compassion as they did and as you continue to do Annie. That's just telling it as it is. You haven't posted anything about soup kitchens feeding the homeless apart from how it isn't the same as historical soup kitchens, which it seems to me is pretty much the same as saying they don't deserve feeding (which is what the unmentionable political movement thought).

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:09:09

I did not say there are no soup kitchens , I did say you can’t compare now with feeding families in the National Strike ?

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 12:10:53

What seems to you trisher ? What seems to you if you keep repeating sn untruth it will become truth. Very Corbyn

trisher Sat 29-Sept-18 15:32:41

So why can't you compare Annie is it the deserving and the undeserving poor like the Victorians or some other xenophobic reason?

Anniebach Sat 29-Sept-18 16:15:21

There is no comparison between a families of small children starving and men / women on the streets being hungry. Your knowledge of the National Strike is very limited trisher. I have diaries written by a man who was hands on during the strike and the depression, no comparison with those who are hungry today.

Shame on you to try to compare them.

lemongrove Sat 29-Sept-18 17:31:31

Oh do stop going in in such a pedantic way about soup kitchens trisher and doing your holier than thou impressions.
Nobody on here is saying anything unpleasant about charities and churches giving meals or food items, rather saying there is not the grinding poverty there was in the past, which is a fact.Homelessness and poverty can never be entirely eradicated since it isn’t all about money, there are differing factors at play.