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Anniebach Fri 21-Sept-18 10:43:32

According to Labour List the three big issues set to dominate the conference this year.

1. Rule Changes. 2. Anti semitism. Brexit.

1. Comes under the democracy review proposals (plus open parlimentary selections ) another round which will be discussed and voted on by the NEC on Saturday.

2. Will likely crop up at fringe events !!!!

3. Mainly revolves around the idea of a second referendum
- termed ‘ a people’s vote’ by its advocates - and could change Labour .policy dramatically.

MawBroon Sun 23-Sept-18 21:11:58

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/12/tom-watson-lost-seven-stone-reversed-type-2-diabetes-interview

Chewbacca Sun 23-Sept-18 21:28:51

Labour conference: deselecting MPs to be made easier BBC news

Labour's annual conference has voted to make it easier for local party members to deselect sitting MPs.
Until now, Labour MPs only faced a reselection contest if 50% of a constituency's local branches and affiliated unions voted for it in a so-called "trigger ballot".
^Delegates in Liverpool voted for that threshold to be reduced to 33%.
The deselection campaign is seen by some Labour MPs as an attempt to "purge" critics of^ Jeremy Corbyn.

Anniebach Sun 23-Sept-18 21:35:09

And Labour MP’s have to be completely loyal to Corbyn !
So no voting with your principles or your out.

Come deselections if the Hit List thread can’t be found I will post it again.

GillT57 Sun 23-Sept-18 22:31:46

If the Tory party brought in that ruling I would join in an attempt to have my complacent, idle MP in his safe seat deselected. As you were. ?

OldMeg Mon 24-Sept-18 08:07:21

Maw yes, I posted some photos somewhere on GN earlier this week about his weight loss. Good man.

OldMeg Mon 24-Sept-18 08:08:04

Gill ??

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 09:23:57

But what about voting according to one’s belief and principles as Corbyn did so many times? I certaintly do not want a party where all the MP’s are nodding dogs.

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 12:45:58

John McDonald is acting on advice from Gordon Brown and thanks him for the advice !

grumppa Mon 24-Sept-18 13:00:18

The First Minister for Wales has just referred to JC as the "next Prime Minister of Britain." Is this a clue that Labour is prepared to abandon Northern Ireland for the sake of a Brexit deal?

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 13:21:33

What the hell was Carwyn on about, I wanted to thump him, Corbyn doesn’t come to Wales, he and Corbyn do not get on.

Think it was a party political broadcast for Wales, there is to be a new leader end of year.

If Labour abandoned N.I, shame on them

lemongrove Mon 24-Sept-18 16:41:45

McDonnell gave a speech using his softly spoken avuncular act, which is more sinister than anything else.When he was praising and hugging Corbyn on stage DD ( also watching)
Said ‘ Get a room!’ [ grin]
What Macca would like to do seems to be to take us back in time, to a time where the Unions ruled the roost and were wrecking the country.Nationalising everything and generally destroying everything that has been built up since the financial crash.
Have to hope the voting public see through it.Us oldies are not entirely naive and stupid.

OldMeg Mon 24-Sept-18 17:01:30

Built up?

Like the NHS has been built up?

Like education has been built up?

Like the police force has been built up?

Am I missing something here? ???

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 17:09:11

It is sinister when he does it that way . It was amusing when SKY put subtitles on for a repeat of the applause for McDonald , Corbyn telling him to move forward for a better photograph, then telling him ‘wave John ‘ . Corbyn has experience of performing for the camera

OldMeg Mon 24-Sept-18 17:32:48

Corbyn has experience of performing for the camera

Something he’s had to learn recently. He shunned the media before.

GillT57 Mon 24-Sept-18 17:36:06

I agree with lemon that McDonnel is sinister, I really do dislike him, but I have to strongly disagree with Nationalising everything and generally destroying everything that has been built up since the financial crash. Where do YOU live lemon? Every public service has been decimated by the Tory administration, without exception. Schools, NHS, prisons, Police, Social Services.......name one that has been built up? I haven't yet watched all of the conference, just heard a bit on Radio 4, but I am aghast at just how out of touch even Labour politicians are. I heard all these big promises about renationalisation/deprivatisation of the water industry. That is of absolutely no bloody help to young families who cannot afford decent long term homes for their families. In this household so far ( mixed ages) there is nothing but grave disappointment mixed with anger.

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 17:39:24

Personally I want Dwr Cymru to remain privatised , have no experience of trains since privatised but certaintly remember how dirty they were before.

MaizieD Mon 24-Sept-18 18:04:35

Where do YOU live lemon?

I suspect that lemon lives in a parallel universe. grin

lemongrove Mon 24-Sept-18 18:38:37

Gill I live in the South Midlands, everything is booming here, where do you live?

lemongrove Mon 24-Sept-18 18:40:20

Contrary to what MaizieD and others of the same ilk would have you believe, vast swathes of the UK are doing very nicely, not everywhere of course, but that has always been the case.

Anniebach Mon 24-Sept-18 18:48:23

I am a happy bunny , Carwyn Jones is loaning his vote to Eluned Morgan so she can stand in the Labour Welsh leadership election, there were four men who declared they would stand, two stood down to give Eluned their support.

I want to mail the male AM’s and remind them it’s 2018 not 1918. Anyway I am back to canvassing, Eluned won’t win, a female leader of Welsh Labour? She has more chance of flying to the moon. She has my vote and support.

GillT57 Mon 24-Sept-18 18:57:14

I am not talking about industry or jobs Lemon as you well know. If you are living in La-La Land doing uk in the sunny West Midlands, we can only assume that you have no need for social care, no need for a GP appt, no burglaries or crimes necessitating calling the local constabulary, no children or grandchildren in underfunded schools, no pot holes, ample rural bus services, lashings of parks and public libraries........really? We are all perfectly entitled to our own opinions on whether or not austerity was worth it or even necessary, but please don't try and tell us you have not been inconvenienced or noticed the impact.

MaizieD Mon 24-Sept-18 19:12:02

Contrary to what MaizieD and others of the same ilk would have you believe, vast swathes of the UK are doing very nicely,

The South Midlands is not 'vast swathes of the country', though it might be in your alternative universe, lemon.

GillT57 Mon 24-Sept-18 19:26:49

Also, although like many on here, I am lucky enough to own my own home, have no significant health problems ( sorry, oldbatty), have no need of help from social services, no need of the prison service, and touch wood, no crimes requiring help from the local police, I do realise that this is not the case for many others around me. Being safe and healthy in my own home does not stop me from being concerned about those who are not so fortunate, being able to buy my own books does not make me any less angry at the closure of my local library. I do hope you were talking tongue in cheek lemon, otherwise I would think you are rather smug and perhaps a little 'I'm alright Jack' in your attitude. But hopefully you will come back and explain that it was all a misunderstood joke on your part.

lemongrove Mon 24-Sept-18 20:18:51

No joke Gill
Austerity measures because of the financial crash have meant cuts to public services as we all know, but you really must be living in la la land yourself if you think Corbyn and pals will mean cushy living.
Everybody I know ( up and down the UK) has a library service, has a working police force, have hospital appointments.Granted, I don’t know anybody who is in prison, perhaps you do.
Do you think we should have spent our way out of our troubles years ago?
It was always going to take a very long time to get out of.
Being concerned about others less fortunate is not the exclusive preserve of Corbyn supporters btw.
The economy is slowly getting better, more people are working and yes, plenty of people are managing and doing very well.
Austerity was worth it and was neccessary.
If Corbyn ever gets into power no doubt every neighbourhood will have every single thing that it needs,(including rainbows and unicorns.)
Sorry Gill but at times you sound very naive indeed.
You say you are not talking about jobs or industry?! The very things that will make the UK do well.
We won’t agree, that’s for sure.I can live with that.

oldbatty Mon 24-Sept-18 20:19:43

" everything is booming" possibly for a very tiny minority.