The Nasty Labour Party - what they really stand for.

Day6 Which Prime Minister's speech are you referring to? This Prime minister or one David Cameron who also asserted that the NHS was safe in Tory hands? The problem is that the evidence proves entirely the opposite
Private care providers were awarded 267 out of a total of 386 contracts made available in 2016-17, including the seven highest value opportunities, worth £2.4bn.
Richard Branson’s Virgin Care scooped a record £1bn worth of contracts last year, meaning the company now has over 400 separate NHS contracts, making it the dominant private provider in the NHS market.
And of course there is the issue of the lowest bidder being given contracts when they are unable to actually provide the service, leading to the problem with disposal of hazardous waste.
Carry on with your delusion that the NHS is safe in Tory hands. But it is fiddling while Rome burns.

Yes Maizie

I believe that Boris Johnson would be a very big turn off to the electorate in any GE.
As is Corbyn.
This time Tory's fail won't be Labour's win.

They are both shockingly bad options.

Between the two Boris is IMO the SLIGHTLY lesser evil. That is not a compliment to Boris before you start telling me why he would be a disaster, I know he would. But Corbyn and the toxic current labour party are the pits!

Usually I can pick a party to vote for who may not be perfect, but aren't the worst have enough redeeming features to make them a choice I could live with. Sometimes that was labour. It is not now. And NOTHING the Tory party do right now could ease my conscience into voting Labour.

Thank you Jalima. I certaintly will not sign, I don’t live in England, to sign would be morally wrong.

Does Wales run its own NHS, Annie, like Scotland does?

Annie and Jalima - no, it is not morally wrong to sign, if you don't live in England, or even if you live abroad. Do you really think that if the England NHS is sold off, be it to Branson or to Trump- the same would not happen to NHS Wales or Scotland? The NHS is the NHS - wherever you live in the UK.

Retirees from the UK, into the EU or Switzerland, without revenue or pension from the EU- are covered by reciprocal arrangement with the EU, via Form S1 - so it is their NHS, just as much as anyone else- to which they have contributed all their lives - and in the case of OH, more than most.

And this is one of the real worries for retirees in the EU currently- just one of many. If we lose reciprocal health care, it will cost us about £1000 a month for cover. Which, combined with Sterling going down and down - will mean some people will not be able to remain abroad.

If and when they come back, with nothing- as unable to sell home- they will have a massive impact on housing, NHS, social services, and more.

Jalima- there are plenty of websites re houses for sale in France. And yes, amazing bargains. I know of several people desperate to sell- even with a drop bottom price not covering purchase and renovation cost at all, sales often falll through at last minute. So yes, plenty of bargains out there for sure.

Grandad1943, as a closet Militant , your post is no surprise .

‘Up the revelation ‘ ?

Anniebach, as a closet Tory no one would expect you to state anything different to what you have stated in your above two posts.

Corbyn’s best strength is addressing crowds, Momentum line up a crowd for him, he couldn’t cope with hecklers as he can’t cope with interviews. McDonald does these for him.

I wasn’t going to vote, perhaps I will decide come the election, certaintly not for Corbyn. Boris may sell his grandmother but Corbyn would sell his soul.

notanan2, if you do not vote then, that would be a pity. However, with the exception of the faithful Conservative party members (who are a very small number), I believe that Boris Johnson would be a very big turn off to the electorate in any GE.

It has to be remembered, Corbyns best strength is addressing crowds at stand up election meeting. It would also be "pounded" that a British mother still resides in an Iranian prison because of his incompetence when he held the position of Foreign Secretary.

Not a great election winner

Thank you Jalima. I certaintly will not sign, I don’t live in England, to sign would be morally wrong.

If he gets the premiership, then that will be the best thing that could ever happen for Labour and Jeremy Corbyn.

Nope. It won't.
Because not being the Tories is no longer enough to save labour.

I'll just not vote. For the first time ever. I don't think I'll be the only one.

I am not sure about the NHS, but I believe Boris (the buffoon) Johnson would sell his own granny if he thought it would "bring him in a few bob."

If he gets the premiership, then that will be the best thing that could ever happen for Labour and Jeremy Corbyn.

Which Prime Minister's speech are you referring to Day6, Boris Johnson or Theresa May.

All those two faced delegates at the Tory Conference applauded both speeches to the rafters. However in regard to policy, it was as the old adage states "never the twain shall meet"

What a disaster of a conference.

The NHS is not a political football. Labour is using it for its own ends once again.

The Prime Minister and the Conservative party are accountable and schemes to sell it off do not exist except in the minds of those who want to overthrow the government. That there are private investors waiting to take over is an oft-used cry from the desperate far left who can fool and scare some of the people. If Labour say it often enough it doesn't make it true.

Labour will scare the vulnerable and those not likely to challenge their assertions - nice tactics from a 'caring' party - to get people o n side.

I refer you to the PM's conference speech which I am sure many Tory-bashers deride but sounded to the many that the NHS is a precious British institution, is being funded to the tune of four hundred million per WEEK, being improved and expanded with specialist fast track cancer clinics and will continue to serve the sick for free, as it always has. The PM uses and defends the NHS.

Scare mongering based on suspicion and political hatred says so much about present day Labour.

I didn't say it WAS being cut I said that decisions about it affected NHS Scotland and NI so we should all sign ...for example if budgets are cut it means ours will be too.

No, Jalima, it's £20 billion over 5 years. And it's barely enough to keep the NHS standing still.

Analysis published by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) last month said that total health care spending in England (not just on the NHS) would need to increase by around 3.3% a year over the next 15 years in order for the NHS to keep functioning at its current level. For services to be “improved” it said that the spending increase would need to be at least 4% a year.

fullfact.org/health/whos-paying-20-billion-nhs/

Does it mention the budget being cut paddyann?
I thought the budget was being increased by £20 billion a year or was I hearing things?

NHS England budget affects the budgets of the other Uk NHS' so yes we should all sign it .If the budget for Nhs England is cut then the others are cut by the same percentage

Anniebach I think this affects NHS England - obviously anyone is entitled to sign the petition but if you live in another country is it right to do so?

What was signed ?

Signed- even today, Mrs May has totally refused to refute that the sale of the NHS will not be part of a deal with the USA (you know, those champions of health care for all - NOT).

I think both parties have traditional and new voters. Yet the loyalty is weakening. The biggest shock I got was when Rhondda voted Plaid Cymru for their Welsh Government member , it even made the News and not just BBC Wales news. If Rhondda can do it , is any seat safe

I personally know quite a number of Tory voters who are not particularly wealthy but just reactionary in their outlook. I know some who are reliant on benefits who are also right wing in their opinions so I am fully aware that, like Labour supporters, Tory voters cover a whole spectrum of socio economic backgrounds. Is it fair to say that the political parties have 'traditional' voters?

Signed and shared Thanks