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The Nasty Labour Party - what they really stand for.

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Day6 Fri 28-Sept-18 21:36:21

Rod Liddle took Labour to the cleaners on Question Time. I fully agree with his assessment.

“I really wish that the people who were taken in by [Labour] and agreed with that, would look to the left beyond the podium and see the rabble with their Palestinian flags and their lanyards sponsored by Hamas, would look to the raft of hypocrites on the Labour front bench. Thornberry, Abbott, Chakrabarti – all of whom don’t want you to send your kids to private schools or selective schools but do so for their kids, and for Corbyn and McDonnell, who have given support and succour to every possible hostile, violent, anti-democratic terrorist regime or organisation they can. IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela.

If you want people like that running your country, vote for Corbyn.”

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 21:13:30

You’re not even a Labour supporter jura but have just joined their gang! Hilarious.

jura2 Fri 05-Oct-18 21:11:34

POT - KETTLE - BLACK

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 21:10:43

Day by day on GN it is being affirmed that the present LP members, by their words show the very worst behaviour and confirm the title of this thread.
All can now see it.

Anniebach Fri 05-Oct-18 21:08:10

Watching HIGNFY, I didn’t watch the Labour conference , Corbyn tried dancing ?

Grandad1943 Fri 05-Oct-18 21:04:23

Lemongrove, Jalima1108 set out to offend me I believe, so I have offended that person.

As I started earlier, do not dish it out if you cannot take it back.

I also believe that there is a great deal of "false offence" being demonstrated by others in this thread, or they have led very sheltered lives. grin

Anyway the battery on my phone is now flat after going all day, and my wife is taking me out to drown my sorrows over having to cancel my retirement today.

See you tomorrow.

Grandad1943 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:52:32

No, I have no intention of reading "The Bevin Boys". There are always those that seek to make money out of the tragedy of war by publishing one sided accounts in books.

As I have stated the government in view of many took the decisions they had to in the years 1940-1945. That Jalima1108 you seem not able to accept. Therefore please advise on how you would have brought forward the coal production tonnage that Britain required in those years?

You will find jalima1108; it is very easy to criticise the decisions of others but not so easy to put forward other solutions yourself.

Not forgetting there was a war on of course.

I await your solution?

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 20:50:58

Oh come off it Grandad43 using the bombed out sympathy vote, lots of people were, even Conservative voters!
Haven’t you noticed btw that Jalima isn’t even a Tory, nasty and evil as they are.grin
If that swastika jibe is the sort of thing you come up with when somebody says something you don’t like......phew!

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:46:44

Good night oldbatty grin

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 20:44:38

Good night Oldbatty I see you would rather quit the thread than have to comment on the ‘swastika’ post.hmm

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 20:43:00

Jalima yes, that is probably what sparked his vitriol, he got the names mixed up! grin

oldbatty Fri 05-Oct-18 20:42:26

I honestly think you away with the fairies and I bid you Good night.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 20:40:40

So oldbatty what did you think of Grandad43 ‘s post, now that you have seen it hmm?
It’s ok is it? It’s aimed at what you think is a ‘right wing’ poster so it doesn’t matter? Even though Jalima may not be a right wing voter.
Any insult is fine is it, as long as it’s not aimed at a Corbyn supporter?
Especially one that involves swastikas.What’s wrong with you?

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:36:23

Are you really saying Jalima, that politics should not be discussed on political threads? Really?
confused
I said they should be jura - but without personal attacks on posters.

I will rephrase it and make it clearer:
It can though jura - as long as posters do not make personal attacks and stick to discussion of politics and politicians

I can see why you may have misunderstood.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:34:03

I have absolutely no idea why I deserved all that vitriol and untrue accusations thrown at me, but I expect it was that I agreed with another poster that you had spelt Bevin wrongly which upset you in the first place.

You obviously have no intention of reading the link from the Bevin Boy.

oldbatty Fri 05-Oct-18 20:33:08

lemon , once again , you are deeply unpleasant and sarcastic.

Why? I haven't got my eyes closed. I just didn't see any abuse of an individual.

jura2 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:31:33

Are you really saying Jalima, that politics should not be discussed on political threads? Really?

lemong spot on : This goes beyond some verbal sparring and banter and if you right wing posters cannot see it then that speaks volumes. Who chose the term 'nasty party? a left wing poster- really?

Grandad1943 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:30:07

Jalima1108, there will be no apology. I merely asked you a question on a matter that you raised on this forum.

You criticised the actions of what was without a doubt in my estimation and the estimation of many others the greatest wartime government this nation has ever had.

I found that criticism highly offensive being that my family was bombed out of their home in 1941. That government and council despite all the pressure of wartime Britain got my mother rehoused in 1943.

And by the way, my father who was taken off the beach at Dunkirk and then went on like many others to fight in North Africa and Dday had Jewish ancestry in his family.

So, we all have things in our background to be offended about.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:30:06

Well, it would be hilarious if it wasn't so abusive.

Ridiculous nonetheless.
However, why worry, I am just one of the 'road kill' party apparently.

Anniebach Fri 05-Oct-18 20:27:27

None so blind as those who do not wish to see lemon.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 20:23:41

Oldbatty says ( with both eyes closed) ‘I am searching for an abusive post’
Well, start with the one from Grandad43 asking Jalima if
‘With her right wing views she would have preferred to see a swastika flying over Westminster’ ?
Posts don’t come much more abusive than that.Unbelievable.
The nasty party indeed Monica and I echo your
comments.
A low even for the political pages of GN.
This goes beyond some verbal sparring and banter and if you left wing posters cannot see it then that speaks volumes.

Anniebach Fri 05-Oct-18 20:21:53

We learn something new every day, war brings sorrow, who would have thought that

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:18:29

It can though jura - as long as posters do not make personal attacks and discuss politics and politicians.

Chewbacca Fri 05-Oct-18 20:17:59

Grandad what strong and emotive words you write.... But what the hell has that got to do with you asking someone, who could be Jewish, if they would have like to see a swastika flying in Britain?
And please don't deign to try and teach me about the necessities in 1940s Britain. You have no idea of my background at all.

jura2 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:16:56

The Title was indeed abusive and totally wrong from the start. How can anything be debated sensibly, with a title like that to start with?

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 20:13:04

Please, Grandad do not speak to me about the sorrows of war.
Your slur still stands and I would like an apology.