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The Nasty Labour Party - what they really stand for.

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Day6 Fri 28-Sept-18 21:36:21

Rod Liddle took Labour to the cleaners on Question Time. I fully agree with his assessment.

“I really wish that the people who were taken in by [Labour] and agreed with that, would look to the left beyond the podium and see the rabble with their Palestinian flags and their lanyards sponsored by Hamas, would look to the raft of hypocrites on the Labour front bench. Thornberry, Abbott, Chakrabarti – all of whom don’t want you to send your kids to private schools or selective schools but do so for their kids, and for Corbyn and McDonnell, who have given support and succour to every possible hostile, violent, anti-democratic terrorist regime or organisation they can. IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela.

If you want people like that running your country, vote for Corbyn.”

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 17:28:39

Yes, the title of the thread was extremely unpleasant.
Priceless, just priceless. Oh, the irony.
grin

Ilovecheese Fri 05-Oct-18 17:26:16

The LP is only talked about in this way by people who do not like it.

There is absolutely no need to start threads with such unpleasant titles.

The Labour party has changed, some people like it and some people do not

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 17:25:43

I’m sure that will be a very real and great comfort to them Grandad43

Grandad1943 Fri 05-Oct-18 17:23:57

Yes, the title of the thread was extremely unpleasant. However, lambasting the Labour Party by a core of very right wing Tories and closet Tories on this forum has always been their forte with or without facts (usually without facts).

However, what has changed in the short time that I have been a member of this forum would be there is now a core of politically left leaning forum members that now challenge often ridiculous Labour bashing right wing posts to ever greater effect, and long may that continue.

I had been looking forward to having greater input alongside the above group following my retirement later this month, but that sadly has now had to be put on hold due to the serious illness of a key member of staff in the company.

But, keep up the great stuff you left supporters, and I will continue to be alongside whenever I find the time. grin

PECS Fri 05-Oct-18 17:22:37

No bully boy Tories then? Are they all co-operative and supportive of one another ? Machiavellian imo!

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 17:11:50

But sadly true Ilovecheese in many ways.The LP is now talked about in this way because of all the bullyboy tactics employed by activists and supporters of Corbyn,it never used to be like this, and hopefully in the future ( a Corbyn free future) it will be much better.

Ilovecheese Fri 05-Oct-18 15:04:44

"This thread is turning nasty."

The title of the thread was extremely unpleasant, that must have set the bar.

trisher Fri 05-Oct-18 14:53:19

No idea where you are lemon but everything is available on-line.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:51:01

Don’t have newspapers here trisher not even the sainted Guardian, too rural for deliveries.

Jalima I think I remember the incident with Bevin and Molotov, didn’t they have cocktails? grin

trisher Fri 05-Oct-18 14:44:31

Are they? How do you know that lemon? Let me guess. You read it in the Daily Fail!

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 14:44:21

And using the analogy of 'road kill' for those of more moderate political persuasion.

Ernest Bevin was anti-Communist and disliked the Soviet Union. Can anyone remember an incident with Molotov? They had a row, can't remember what about. He was also definitely not a pacifist.
Of course, he was never Leader of the LP.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:38:14

The extreme left are creating their very own witch hunts.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:37:05

We are all allowed to think and vote differently trisher
I have no objection to anyone stating they are a Communist Marxist etc, It’s when it’s hidden and served up as ‘moderate Labour thinking’ and ‘getting back to our roots’ stuff that annoys me.Calling LP members like Annie ‘closet Tories’
Wanting to deselect MP’s, infiltrating councils and groups at every level and so on, whilst calling out those who are not as extreme as themselves.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 14:26:01

note - not not

Jalima1108 Fri 05-Oct-18 14:25:44

Is this the period you mean trisher?

Looking at a list of post-war governments up to the 1980s (both parties were in government during that time, not just Labour) it is interesting to not the higher turnout in those days - around 80%.
Perhaps people had more of a sense of duty or perhaps they have just become disillusioned with politics altogether nowadays.

trisher Fri 05-Oct-18 14:22:45

Pleased you know about McCarthyism lemon there are indications that some people would like to create a similar movement here. The only problem being they want to root out all left wingers not just communists.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 05-Oct-18 14:17:23

This thread is turning nasty.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:16:21

‘Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party?’ grin
Corbyn and McDonnell are that way inclined...... !

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:13:28

What is what?

trisher Fri 05-Oct-18 14:09:07

lemon you are one of the people who has called me a communist so come on what is it? Or can't you tell the difference.
As far as the Lib Dems go I would have thought given their history they would fully understand "Road Kill"

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:03:56

The Nasty Labour Party, yes, very apt.

lemongrove Fri 05-Oct-18 14:02:41

trisher your comments to those not of the same political
Stripe as yourself are getting worse!
Quoting insults from an irascible Nye is just your way of insulting Conservative and Lib Dem GN members.
Not that you will admit it on here of course, it will be all ‘oh dear, am only quoting him’ .... I think it’s you with the prejudice problem not POGS.

trisher Fri 05-Oct-18 13:53:07

Try to. get it right POGS I realise it is difficult given the prejudice you feel.
Vermin are the Tories
Road Kill are middle of the road. (It's a complicated metaphor but essentially in the middle of the road you just get squashed flat, no one listens to you, a point surely some will agree with)
According to some I'm a communist, so maybe you shouldn't blame the Labour Party.

POGS Fri 05-Oct-18 13:27:18

trisher

"POGS I'm just quoting Nye, make of it what you will."

Then I will make of your using another persons quote to make your own point and believe you are indeed calling those who vote Conservative/Tory ' VERMIN and ROAD KILL '.

How ironic the thread is entitled the The Nasty Labour Party.

Day6 Fri 05-Oct-18 13:23:31

Those not to the far left are 'vermin' and 'road-kill' now. hmm

So this is Corbyns way...caring for all. Or all who support him and his vile band. Spotted a young man recently, could have been no more than 17, sporting a T shirt with the slogan 'Kill Tory Scum'.

A brave, new, violent and vicious world under Labour. No thanks.