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Peoples' Vote March Saturday 20th October

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varian Tue 16-Oct-18 13:19:31

In June, more than 100,000 people from all walks of life marched on Parliament to demand their democratic voice is heard.

A crisis is coming this Autumn when MPs will have to decide whether to make our country poorer, trash our vital public services and wreck the life chances of the young or give us all a People’s Vote on any Brexit deal.

So we are planning an even bigger march, this time led by young people whose voices were ignored two years ago, that will make political leaders sit up and take notice.

The People’s Vote March For The Future will be the most important protest of our generation.

www.peoples-vote.uk/march

Mamie Sun 21-Oct-18 09:17:19

So the UK leaves, the mandate of the 2016 referendum is discharged and the people then vote for a party that will ask to be readmitted to the EU under Article 49.
I would be happy with that.

Anniebach Sun 21-Oct-18 09:13:30

At general elections there are seats won by just about one or two hundred votes, should these constituencies hold another ballot ?

merlotgran Sun 21-Oct-18 09:09:05

Well said, Jane10. If there has to be a people's vote referendum every time we face a major challenge, what on earth are we paying the politicians to do?

And as for voting on the final deal....If and when TM gets a deal we need to get on with it rather than muddy the waters.

Jane10 Sun 21-Oct-18 09:02:38

And if they suddenly vote to stay in incalculable financial costs and massive loss of reputation and potential break up also ensue as well as having trampled over democratic principles. Moral minefield. We're in a hole. Time to stop digging. Get out of it and get going.

Mamie Sun 21-Oct-18 08:55:01

I also don't understand how people can look at all those young people on the march, see the weight of the opinion polls for being in the EU (c80+% remain in under 25s) and think the voters of the near future would chose to stay out.
In the meantime the country will suffer enormous unecessary cost, economic hardship, reputational loss and the possible break-up of the United Kingdom.

PECS Sun 21-Oct-18 08:14:40

For each of the 700000 on the protest (our democratic right!) there will have been at least 3 others, if not more, whho like me were unable to be there. We know that well over 48% of the population would prefer to remain. The referendum was not a landslide for leaving. It was a divided vote that really did not give a green light to government to invoke Article 50.

Mamie Sun 21-Oct-18 05:35:50

Surely the point is, "Could leavers mobilise 700,000 marchers?".

Day6 Sun 21-Oct-18 00:35:14

Some Twitter perspective regarding the march. grin

Wow!
99% of UK population didn't bother
93% of London didn't bother
700,000!
So for every 1 of you, 33 people voted leave!

Day6 Sun 21-Oct-18 00:14:22

Protests, marches, sit-ins, blockades, placard holders - I suspect quite a few of my generation were active regarding causes they believed in. My children and grandchildren will in future also march. Two of my children protested recently, one with regard to fracking and another on the Peoples Vote march.

Having been there, done that I am not sure many protests make people sit up and take notice long term.

March to over turn a democratic vote? To vote again? Not sure that resonated with the majority of the UK population to be honest, but I am glad the right to protest exists.

annodomini Sat 20-Oct-18 22:35:06

Good for you, Dyffryn. I was with you all in spirit; if only I was more mobile I'd have marched with you.

Dyffryn Sat 20-Oct-18 21:35:34

Just got home after an exhausting 2 day trip to London to take part in the Peoples vote March. People of all political persuasions were marching together in unity against something they feel very strongly about. Such a lovely atmosphere, young and old together. My Grandchildren will hopefully be proud of what I did today.

merlotgran Sat 20-Oct-18 20:57:37

Sadiq Khan says that young people 'weren't heard' in 2016 but a lot of today's students (two of my DGCs included) weren't old enough to vote then and a lot that were didn't bother. Does this mean that young people who voted leave don't count?

I'm not an uncompromising leaver. I found it hard to decide which way to vote but some of the arguments put forward for a second referendum are unfair.

varian Sat 20-Oct-18 20:42:59

Leavers march? Where? When? How many people did that involve?

Anniebach Sat 20-Oct-18 20:41:59

BBC ran it first followed by the leavers march varian

varian Sat 20-Oct-18 20:40:21

if it is mentioned at all.

varian Sat 20-Oct-18 20:39:08

People's Vote march: '700,000' rally for new Brexit referendum– as it happened

On the BBC News it was at first reported as "more than 600,000, but later described as "more than half a million". What's the betting that by tomorrow it will be described as "more than 100, 000 or "more than 10, 000 or "more than 1,000" - if it is mentiones

MaizieD Sat 20-Oct-18 19:41:33

You are absolutely right, Jane10.

Smileless2012 Sat 20-Oct-18 19:41:02

I've never said that if there were another vote the outcome would be the same humptydumpty. I don't have a crystal ball any more than you do.

I wouldn't be at all surprised though that if it were, another vote would be called for. Then another, and another.

Jane10 Sat 20-Oct-18 19:34:53

No matter what the final outcome of Brexit is there's going to be very unhappy people on one side or the other. Its a total no win situation. sad

Welshwife Sat 20-Oct-18 19:08:34

Besides people travelling from the Continent people also travelled from Orkney and Cornwall - so very inclusive.

mcem Sat 20-Oct-18 18:54:11

"The fashionable metropolitan thing"?
Don't write this protest off so glibly!
Tell it to the vast majority of Scots who voted to remain.

varian Sat 20-Oct-18 18:45:30

If it could be conclusively demonstrated to me that this "deal" which we were being offered was acceptable to the EU27, and without any doubt better than the deal we presently enjoy as EU members, then I would support it.

Anything is is possible. Pigs might start to fly across the sky.

PECS Sat 20-Oct-18 18:26:56

The referendum result was not exactly a landslide in favour of leaving so certainly not a green light for a hard Brexit. If " the will of the people" is to be reflected then the 48% plus who prefered remain cannot be ignored.

humptydumpty Sat 20-Oct-18 18:10:39

I am always bemused as to why Leavers object so strongly to another vote based on the nature of any deal (or no deal if that's what comes) - if they are so sure, as you seem to be smileless, that the outcome will be the same, why do you feel threatened?

Smileless2012 Sat 20-Oct-18 17:54:55

But it isn't democracy if remainers vote against a final deal, regardless of how good it is, to keep us in the EU nandalot. varian has stated that's what she would do and how many remainers will do the same?