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Is this JC’s “Donkey jacket gate”?

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MawBroon Mon 12-Nov-18 11:11:26

inews.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyns-coat-armistice-day-service-cenotaph/

Harrumph!
I know appearance is not everything, but could Jeremy Corbyn not have found a more appropriate coat and tie?
Looks like a bit of a passive aggressive statement to me.

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 10:44:58

Oh, I have only seen photos online and someone mentioned a red tie upthread, someone else said it was purple; I didn't see the tv at all so why it would be purple I have no idea.

Perhaps he didn't choose it himself as I just don't think he is good with clothes.

gillybob Tue 13-Nov-18 10:42:14

I thought black ties were worn as form of respect Jalima ? The tie JC wore was a kind of reddy purple . Hardly to match the poppy which was so tiny you could barely see it at all .

Anniebach Tue 13-Nov-18 10:39:44

Was not the poppy he wore made to remember the women in the wars. Kate wore one with a red poppy.

Anniebach Tue 13-Nov-18 10:37:54

Surely laying a wreath at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Day isn’t an informal event

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 10:36:25

I still need the red tie problem explaining to me

Should Jez have worn a black tie?

The red tie matches the poppy

POGS Tue 13-Nov-18 10:34:19

Sigh

oldbatty Tue 13-Nov-18 10:29:32

yes and some of the nastiest, sarcastic people I have ever " met" are on this forum.

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 10:24:43

Some of the nastiest people I have ever encountered wore smart suits. Males and females.
ditto people in anoraks

You just can't tell, eh, oldbatty

sodapop Tue 13-Nov-18 09:04:07

I agree Chewbacca it seems its ok to criticise the dress sense of any woman in the public eye but heaven forfend the same rule should apply to men.

PECS Tue 13-Nov-18 09:03:03

sorry for fat finger errors..on my phone!

PECS Tue 13-Nov-18 09:02:28

But this was not an international event! It was,a domestic one. JC has suits etc and when at indoor formal places is dressed as expected. Because he chose a showerproof jacket rathere than a black wool coat he is deemed weak & shambolic! What was thst chap ewearing when he said he did not tealise the importance of the channel ports & Brexit?

oldbatty Tue 13-Nov-18 08:55:47

Some of the nastiest people I have ever encountered wore smart suits. Males and females.

M0nica Mon 12-Nov-18 23:07:15

I think it is being very parochial to only talk about the impression he made on us.

Why does no-one address the issue of what effect did his appearance on Sunday have on other world leaders he will have to negotiate and deal with?

Jalima1108 Mon 12-Nov-18 23:03:55

I still don't understand why the red tie was wrong though.

I will go and take a long, hard look at my red scarf - should I consign it to the charity shop?

PECS Mon 12-Nov-18 22:55:45

I have not criticised TMs appearance. She always looks ok. Not my style but then she is not my height and shape grin

Chewbacca Mon 12-Nov-18 22:47:47

We cannot choose leaders on their dress sense!. Quite right! But it hasn't stopped the free for all pitching in to criticise TM for wearing leather trousers or a "too short" pink dress on her holidays did it? Or is it considered fair game to criticise a woman's dress sense or lack of it but it's trivialising and detracting from the main issue when its a man or Corbyn.

POGS Mon 12-Nov-18 22:47:44

I don't care about his coat and tie but I haven't heard him speak out against Aaron Bastani unlike other Labour MP's.

Perhaps that's because he agrees with him.

merlotgran Mon 12-Nov-18 22:41:08

I take your point, Luckygirl but JC knew that whatever he wore would be up for scrutiny. Wearing an anorak, red tie and the smallest poppy possible was bound to be criticised.

A service of remembrance is no place for a display of stubborness.

PECS Mon 12-Nov-18 22:40:19

LuckygirlI agree.
Did those of us, who may have watched the ceremony at home, show less respect if we were still in PJs, or have an apron on over jeans and jumper? Or could we still weep genuine tears, think about and remember those we have known and loved whose lives were ravaged by war?
It is not what you wear to Remembrance Service but the honesty of your feeling that matters.
Matthew 6:5

M0nica Mon 12-Nov-18 22:35:37

What sort of impression do you think Corbyn made on other world leaders by his appearance this weekend and how do you think it will affect their view of him as a man they can do business with, as distinct from walk over him.

Luckygirl Mon 12-Nov-18 22:26:53

And all those guys in their smart suits - the sort of people who send new young people to war from the safety of their offices. Wearing a suit does not mean they are innocents.

What JC wore is an irrelevance.

Many people in their own different ways wanted to remember the wholesale slaughter that was WW1 and to express their sorrow. What any one of these people wore is not what it is about.

PECS Mon 12-Nov-18 22:25:34

lemongrove I do not really do not put a lot of emphasis on what people wear. I am one of those who do not really support school uniform. If you think that is naïve so be it.

Fennel Mon 12-Nov-18 22:22:59

He was there and looked clean and neat . And placed his wreath.
Those are the main things imo.

Eloethan Mon 12-Nov-18 22:19:05

No doubt if Corbyn had appeared all dressed up in a black cashmere overcoat, expensively understated tie, etc, etc, the media would be the first to denounce him for adopting a style that was so clearly not his own in order to curry favour with the great British public.

Let's face it, whatever he did he would be criticised. I believe it was last year a photograph was published which appeared to show him "dancing" at the commemoration. When the whole, uncropped, picture was seen it revealed that the accusation of him "dancing" was a complete fabrication.

How truly pathetic and disgusting that at a time when the tragic deaths of millions of people and the horrors of war were supposed to be being commemorated with quiet dignity, instead the media chooses to make yet another political attack on Corbyn.

There is reportedly a huge lack of resources allocated to service people with PTSD and other mental health problems. For many years there have been, and continue to be, reports on the terrible state of much of the housing allocated to service families. The lack of practical and emotional support when people leave the armed services has also led to ex service people being disproportionately represented in figures relating to homelessness, mental health problems and addiction. Perhaps instead of a load of immaculately dressed people standing with sombre faces each year at commemoration services, it might be more productive to sort these issues out.
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M0nica Mon 12-Nov-18 22:08:22

PECS a lot of us would agree you, but it happens all the same, so we just have to knuckle down and deal with it and for the Labour Party and Britain to go forward to bravely negotiate these noble things like peace in our time and the end of the arms race then we have to have a leader who can cut the mustard - and part of that is looking the part. having the demeanour, yes, and the clothes that show that you are not to be messed with. If Corbyn cannot see that then he does not have the skills needed to be a world leader.