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Are the 48 letters really there?

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mabon1 Wed 14-Nov-18 10:51:10

I voted remain. Teresa May has a toxic job, who would want it? I am no Tory but feel sorry for the woman.

LuckyFour Wed 14-Nov-18 10:21:13

Please, another referendum. The whole thing is a huge mistake!!!

Nanny41 Wed 14-Nov-18 10:06:54

Who would want to take over this complex task nobody at the moment, and who would the Country want? nobody at present.
We have a similar situation in Sweden at the momentt no real Government, there is still the old Prime Minister but nodody can agree how the coalition should be, so no Cabinet, Britain isnt the only Country in a MESS

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 23:25:06

Ah but Jalima1108 possibly close ties to some of the 1922 committee who have similar aims to UKIP but are just a bit more circumspect and in the background.
do you think so trisher?
Is he still an AM?

mostlyharmless Tue 13-Nov-18 21:23:46

It’s become a well-sourced article of faith that the problem that Conservative Brexiteers have is that they have the numbers to trigger a vote of no confidence in Theresa May’s leadership of the Tory party (they need 15 per cent of the parliamentary party to sign a letter calling for one, that is to say, 48 names) but not enough to win one (for which you need 50.1 per cent of the parliamentary party, i.e. 156 MPs)

It’s true to say that, if you were to pick up the phone to every member of the parliamentary Conservative party, you would struggle to get close to 156 people to commit to voting against May even privately. In fact there is a lot of hostility to the idea of triggering one early because under Tory party rules, if the leader survives a confidence vote you can’t have another go for a year.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2018/10/if-theresa-may-does-face-confidence-vote-dont-bet-her-winning-it

mostlyharmless Tue 13-Nov-18 21:16:08

I’m sure I remember reading that, while 48 letters could trigger a vote of no confidence, those numbers would probably not be enough to pass the vote in HoC.
I think it said something like 150 would be the minimum number of rebels to make a coup succeed.
If the 1922 committee were to start the process and fail they could not try again for twelve months. Perhaps the time isn’t right yet for an attempted coup.
I’ll try and find the source for that.

kittylester Tue 13-Nov-18 21:00:04

Surely, if the 48 letters are there, the 1922 committee has a duty to act. Can they choose when to flourish them? Seems Un democratic to me!

trisher Tue 13-Nov-18 20:48:25

Ah but Jalima1108 possibly close ties to some of the 1922 committee who have similar aims to UKIP but are just a bit more circumspect and in the background.

Jalima1108 Tue 13-Nov-18 20:11:15

Christine Hamilton
confused
wife of the UKIP Neil Hamilton?

Quite honestly, would you believe it?

Smileless2012 Tue 13-Nov-18 19:08:43

If the letters are there then they should be produced. IMO those who wrote them should put up or shut up.

trisher Tue 13-Nov-18 17:53:16

It was Christine Hamilton on Jeremy Vine the other morning who said the letters are there. Perhaps she was just speculating but I do think she might have close connections there.

POGS Tue 13-Nov-18 13:35:03

trisher

Who knows?

Your other thread asked more or less the same question back in September and she has not gone yet.

She could be gone in 24 hours, 24 days or 24 months .

GrannyGravy13 Tue 13-Nov-18 11:21:05

trisher I doubt if anyone on either side of the H of P want the job of PM at this moment in our History.

TM is damned whatever she manages to do with the poison chalice that the referendum in 2016 has delivered.

I voted leave by the way, just wish our MP's would stop political point scoring and get on with the job in hand!!!

If it was such a loaded revolver - why was it handed to us "the ill-informed" (goes for both sides of the debate by the way) to vote on, before they had a "plan"

Elegran Tue 13-Nov-18 11:05:32

If you plan to get rid of a leader it is best to have a suitable alternative candidate waiting in the wings. Heaven knows who that would be.

In this situation, they are probably postponing action until after Mrs M has finished negotiating Brexit. Then they can either give three cheers and rally behind her, or throw her to the wolves and find some other patsy brave soul to take over refashioning the country in line with all the new legislation that is to come.

Maybe the rumours are just wishful thinking?

trisher Tue 13-Nov-18 10:58:04

If there are as has been widely rumoured the required 48 letters from MPs lodged with the 1922 asking for Mrs May to go why haven't they acted? Could it be that there is no one who wants the job? Are they planning for a general election? In the past they have acted quickly and ruthlessly to get rid of a leader. What is going on now? Are they just leaving Mrs May to carry the can for the Brexit farce?