Cabinet chaos?

If you're griping about use of language and not being 'nice' let's have a look at how 'nice' TM is being.
Was it nice to ignore the NI issue until the 11th hour?
It was obvious from the outset that this was a volcano rumbling quietly but being largely ignored until it erupted, apparently surprising the short-sighted or blinkered!
Different arrangements may be made for NI/Eire
but Scotland can take whatever is handed out. Well that's not going well as she has now been accused of not listening, and despite all the wheeling and dealing and is losing the support of DUP!
Was it nice to consult Malta, Cyprus and the Isle of Man before the Scottish government had sight of the (laughingly-named) agreement? And then when questioned on this in the HoC saying, more or less, too bad. Scotland is part of the UK so you'll do as you're told!
Many in the country have tried to follow the advice to be nice and patient! Pie in the sky exposed?

Anniebach, good grief, Jeremy Corbyn gave what many in the media are stating was his best parliamentary performance since becoming Labour leader. So, he spoke from a pre-written text, but what is your problem with that as Theresa May did the same at the start of her address to the house.

In this crisis what people require is straightforward questions and answers written or not. In that, Jeremy Corbyn he was listened to in almost complete silence by the house, and in that atmosphere, I feel it demonstrated he was asking the right questions, in the right way.

Good grief, Corbyn even needed his questions and criticism written out for the house this morning

Yes, MaryE I rather think that my posts are informed and your replies simply prove it.
Shall we move on?

EM is a good person eazy ? Well I’ve heard it all now - she lies in the House re UC and has been taken to task about this several times. Her resignation is the only ray of sunshine on this dark day.

Another one bites the dust ... I m singing it ????

Oh just stfu - you made a comment about how I behave in rl - you have no bloody idea. As to your opinion of judging my ‘niceness’ on my use of stfu- well I guess that’s as informed as most of your posts on here

That’s true MaryE I don’t know you, but people who say
Shut the f.... up to other posters, generally aren’t the nicest.
This government has been between a rock and a hard place since T May took over ( what a job!) and things were always going to be divisive in Parliament once it became obvious they were not all going to work together for the best interests of the UK.It didn’t have to be that way....but that’s how it turned out.

I feel that the essential circumstance from the position the UK finds itself in now would be that it is essential that frictionless trade is maintained through the ports.

I do not believe that even the most ardent Brexetier foresaw the disaster that in every likelihood will fall on Britain's transport infrastructure without a customs agreement as they cast their votes.

Let's face it; as was so often stated throughout the referendum campaign by the leave campaign, a trade deal and customs agreement would be easily negotiated and achieved.

However, the twenty-seven other EU member states have maintained their allegiance to the Lisbon and Maastricht treaty rules, and that is the reason the British people find themselves facing the political impasse and supply disaster they see now.

I admire the principles of the people who have resigned, three at present I believe. The point of Dominic Raab's resignation is that he did not negotiate this agreement; he was undermined by Mrs. May as was David Davies before him. Overnight the cabinet have had the chance to read properly the terms of the agreement, which they were only allowed to scan briefly under supervision, before it was removed.
Unfortunately the cabinet is haemorrhaging good people, speedily replaced by yes-men Remainers, which is what Mrs. May is, through and through. It is now becoming evident, despite her promises to the contrary, that her intention is to keep this country shackled to the EU, and negotiate a re-entry as soon as they are prepared to consider it. And she has an unshakeable conviction that she is doing the right thing.
A 'people's vote' will solve nothing; it is simply a delaying tactic and an avoidance of the issue. What is needed is a reconsideration of why so many people wanted to, and still want to, leave the EU, despite all the confusion, and why the EU is so intransigent in its refusal to consider the slightest compromise.

And once again, Maryeliza, you have to resort to swearing to reinforce your point. Plus the use of 'posh boy'. ( is your name actually Alan?) If so, you will know.

You don’t know me at all lemon in real life so just stfu with such stupid personal comments - I expect it’s tough for you being in the corner you painted yourself in with always supporting everything this government does and always posting that everything would work out wonderfully.

"A bit of a cheek for Raab to resign from the draft deal that he negotiated!"
I guess this version had been prepared by the civil service ages ago as a last resort. You can't prepare a legal document that long in a few days.
The job of Raab and May etc is to try to sell it to the EU

Same old, same old. Everyone looking out for themselves as usual. DR is a traitor to his party and leader. TM is between a rock and hard place, of course there have been mistakes but I feel for her having no support from anyone but who amongst them will make a better job of it all.

re attack. If the country is unstable it may be vulnerable to attack. I don't know. Probably talking rubbish.

maryeliza, isn’t saying David Cammeron enough for us to understand who you are referring to, posh boy is rather silly, so class war , so outdated

You’re a real keyboard warrior aren’t you maryE
I do wonder if you won’t say boo to a goose in the real world though.

Yes, I certainly do blame everyone in Parliament.What with Labour and their ridiculous ‘six tests’ which they know are impossible to have met, and Corbyn being anti EU all his life and now hedging his bets, the SNP against the referendum results ( as they are against everything that stems from Westminster) and MP’s of all Parties either wanting a hard Brexit or wanting to defy the referendum results.Just about any deal that T May brought back from Brussels would have been voted down, and not just by Conservatives.

And you ask if no deal is really what people want? Well that question wasn’t asked was it because it was a bloody stupid question that was asked in the first place and most people just did not realise what the real options were.

Nice try lemon still refusing to accept that this all happened with a Conservative Government - D.C. using the referendum as a way to unite his party, sure in his entitled posh boy way that he would win, not bothering to think it through or even have a minimum threshold % - the Tories are in government, we are facing the worst constitutional crisis ever and you try and blame everyone? I still remember the ashen faces of MG and BJ on the day after the result when they realised they’d won and just didn’t know what to do - and they ran away. The Tories are to blame for all of this and it just grieves me that there is no effective Labour Government in waiting.

I’m a remainer and I’d rather have Mays deal than no deal as that would be a disaster. Raab is a complete traitor. McVey -good riddance. Looks like the biggest constitutional crisis since Charles 1 had his head chopped off.

In that case I think that No Deal would win the day, and is that really what everyone wants?

It does seem as Dominic Grieve suggested this morning that it's time to put this back to 'the people': May's deal, no deal or remain. Surely that's the democratic approach?

The whole of Parliament is culpable IMHO, members of all parties playing political games and many jockeying for positions.Cabinet Ministers should have resigned yesterday rather than today if they disagreed.
Those (in Parliament) who favour a hard Brexit and Remainers who have never accepted the results of the referendum are working together for no EU deal, yes, a complete shower.

What a snide threat just made by Rees-Mogg asking should he write a letter.

So many have been taken-in by his 'young-fogey' smooth, polite demeanour. He really is a nasty piece of work. Talk about kicking your leader when she's down.

Anniebach, I feel the future of this proposed agreement is no longer in the hands of Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn. It now seems that the whole Brexit issue is "careering out of control" with no true person of stature anywhere in the House of Commons who appears to possess the leadership qualities to lead this country out of this mess.

To return the matter to the British electorate is now the only way forward I believe. However, whether this parliament could even form enough agreement to decide on the question or questions that would be on the such a ballot paper is another matter.