A leadership contest!

The Blair /Brown got something right, only time in the history of the party that labour won three consecutive elections. But -

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-election-campaign-vote-seats-won-share-worst-70-years-jeremy-corbyn-tony-blair-a7840231.html

lemongrove, Jeremy Corbyn may well be relieved of the leadership if the Labour Party had a poor result at the next General Election. However, it would not return to the party of Tony Blair or Gordon Brown as they took the subscription and affiliation money off often poorly paid grassroots members for many years and gave them absolutely nothing in return.

Even if Labour do badly at the next election, those grassroots members will still retain the present policies I feel, for the party now belongs fully to them and in that the principles surrounding those policies are sacrosanct and will not change.

The above I very much respect.

Don’t mention it! Oh, you already have done.

What an amazingly insightful post lemon thanks for sharing.

They will soon get rid of Corbyn if he loses the next GE...
Whenever that may be.

If the brexiters have their way we could out-do Mauritania, become Ruritania, the pantomime country which gives everyone a good laugh.

Every country in the world is in some kind of trade bloc. Apart from Mauritania.

GrannyGravy13, Anniebach, Jeremy Corbyn along with the the elected Executive Committees have given the Labour district, regional and constituency parties far greater powers and in that the elected members of parliament are answerable and responsible to them.

The various Labour movement conferences set national policies for those bodies to follow and all MPs are expected to subscribe those policies also.

And that the way it should be.

Dont trust any of them!!

True GrannyGravy

Unfortunately JC has not got the backing of the MPs of the Labour Party, neither has TM.

Well no other Conservatives on here ( including annie* ?) seems to think there’s anything wrong with giving the whip back to those two apologies for men do they?

Challenge? No one can stand against UNITE and Momentum. Unless they want to lose their position as MP ,

GrannyGravy13, you are correct in stating that a vote of no confidence was brought against Jeremy Corbyn by the Parliamentary Labour Party in 2016. However, in the way it was brought forward it had no constitutional legitimacy under the rules of the Labour Party and broader Labour movement.

However, Jeremy Cobyn offered himself up for re-election and won that Ballot with an increased and overwhelming majority.

The Labour party then went on to achieve a national membership of over half a million.

Some leader to challenge as those that tried it found out.

Sorry but any Conservatives out there who are not criticising the mess the party is in at the moment must either be delusional or partaking of a total news blackout!

MaizieD - I feel you have misinterpreted my post, free of the EU the UK can have more options to choose from whom they wish to trade freely with, without the constraints of the EU.

Well try being on GN the tiniest bit left of centre and you’re a Marxist-Trotskyite-Corbynists card carrying member of Momentum GG . The main difference is that many of us on the left are actually able to criticise the left but sadly the right on GN generally don’t criticise their own.

Aepgirl not only do they not want us to leave, and need the billions we pay in, they have to make this severance as bloody and painful as possible as there are other countries who would follow suit if the EU saw us off with a cheery wave, a decent agreement and no hard feelings. That was never, ever going to happen.

1 billion of overseas aid is counted in what we pay to the EU.

Does Pakistan need over £400 million of our money every year ?

Ethiopia= over £350 million ?

Afghanistan=over £300 million ?

Nigeria=over £250 million ?

Syria=over £250 million ?

Sierra Leone=over £200 million ?

South Sudan=over £200 million ?

Tanzania=over £200 million ?

India=£200 million ?

Bangladesh=£200 million ?

Relying on and limited by one “trade block” in the 21st century is rather narrow minded.

Well, that's really weird, GG because most countries seem to be very keen to join trade blocs in the 21st C.

There are loads of them:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc

It’s hard owning up to being a Conservative on gn, especially as they are not performing “particularly well” at the moment (“tongue in cheek”).

Well thanks for saying that GG it’s rare for a Conservative on GN to criticise their own side - I think it was a disgrace and imagine how the women involved must feel?

^ So does foreign aid, only more^

As I understand it, the portion of our EU contribution which goes towards EU foreign aid (i.e to countries outside the EU) is actually counted as part of our foreign aid budget.

As the fifth biggest economy, why do we need the EU anymore than the rest of the world?

Relying on and limited by one “trade block” in the 21st century is rather narrow minded.

Oops add Jeremy Corbyn