"There will be NO renegotiation!" says Juncker for EU. Let us get out NOW!

Varian
In reply to your post @ 18.44.
For a really stupid people we have managed to create many of the worlds top inventions including the one your using now
We don't do bad for Nobel prize winners, either, second only to America.
World class universities, yes that's us there again, right up there with the best.
Look in any field of endeavour from creating many of the worlds top sports, to much of the worlds best art and music.
So we don't do too bad for a stupid people, do we?

E,C,T.C? Any comments?

By the politicians in those countries?
I have no doubt!
The citizens maybe not so much!

Since 27% of the UK population voted to leave in 2016 the support for EU membership has risen in all the other 27 member countries.

The EU is doomed to failure. Why tie ourselves to a sinking ship.
There's massive unrest starting in many countries in the EU.
Dissatisfaction with how these unelected officials rule like Demi-gods.
Revolting men like Juncker feathering their own nests!
Looking down on the stupid hoi polloi proletariat.
The tide is turning!
It was doomed to failure from the beginning anyway.

If we're so Small, boring and stupid.
Why are the EU fighting tooth and nail to keep us?
They're so large, riveting and clever, (NOT) why do they need little old UK?

Britain decided to leave the European Union in 2016, when 51.9 percent chose to Vote Leave, but how much is Brexit cost the UK so far?

Brexit is costing the UK £500 million a week - or £26 billion per annum, according to research by the Centre for European Reform.

The UK economy is 2.5 percent smaller than it would be if the UK had voted to remain in the European Union, the thinktank said.

The cost of Brexit is growing, despite Brexiteers promising a dividend of £350m a week for leaving the EU - a campaign promise the Leave side famously declared on a Vote Leave bus.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045243/Brexit-cost-how-much-has-brexit-cost-uk-june-2018-500-million-pounds-a-week

Astonishing admission from the Daily Express which has relentlessly campaigned for brexit for years.

I don’t think so - we are still the 5th biggest economy in the world.

I noticed this this morning, its all on Google.
European Common Transit Convention after Brexit.

A middling power? I don't think so!!

Brexit Britain: Small, boring and stupid
The UK better get used to being a middling power.

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-britain-small-boring-and-stupid-theresa-may-eu-withdrawal-deal/

I agree! The Irish Border is as red herring in my opinion also.
Doesn't the EU have borders with other countries who are not in the EU.
Why is the Irish border made out to be such a big problem?

A YouGov poll has discovered that 11 per cent of the public agree with the proposition “politics is working well”. Who are they, these one in nine of the populace, and why are they at liberty?

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-chaos-theresa-may-general-election-second-referendum-commons-vote-a8675001.html

Day6 I agree that we have been to nice.

Definitely should have played “hardball” from day 1

I don't want Mays deal and nor does Sammy Wilson DUP he wants to leave without a deal and says the Irish Border issue is a red herring.

Why they couldn't have spent the last two years working on a no deal with the EU, laying the ground for our full participation with the WTO, whilst simultaneously ironing out leaving difficulties and having a joint UK/EU agreement as to how we would go forward (because the EU doesn't want to lose it's trade with the UK either).

It would have been a much better use of time.

If May had said to Barnier and Juncker from the beginning, two years ago, "We are leaving - how do you want to trade with US in the future?" it might have been a better strategy, leaving us in almost the same place we are now, but without any of the ground work laid for an alternative plan.

I cannot imagine though, that there hasn't been a Plan B which kicks in if we cannot agree terms with the EU. We will continue to trade with the EU in the future anyway. They need our market too.. I think we have tried too hard to be conciliatory.

Back to square one maybe, after two fruitless, bitter years?

It is bein widely reported that the cabinet is implementing no deal scenario.

Due to EU elections in May 2019, it is impossible to put Article 50 on hold, this is the legal advice as reported in the Telegraph.

Also it will take at least a year to organise a 2nd referendum so that is in all probability not going to happen.

Us preparing for a no deal is a practical thing to do, and anything that puts some pressure on the EU negotiating team is welcome.

Well it’s alright if we go down the pan

Ha ha..such a typical Project Fear bad loser response!

We are going to go down the pan are we? You know this?Crystal ball arguments again.

The EU has never been our trading saviour. They rely on us too you know. We are perfectly capable or drawing up new agreements globally AND continuing to trade on different terms with the EU bloc - as other countries around the world do.

The chairman of one of the big German banks (I think the Bundesbank) has come out and said that the UK will be ok leaving with no deal, as we are a resilient and resourceful nation.

He went on to say that Germany will suffer more than the UK, it appears that the EU members are starting to worry about us leaving without a deal.

There's some very strange logic going on at the moment. Someone on tv last night said it was ok that people didn't know what voting leave meant because we didn't know what we were voting for 40 years ago either [which wasn't actually true anyway].

Well it’s alright if we go down the pan as we’ll be hurting them as well. Very noble sentiment.

So, Britain preparing for a no deal situation will put pressure on the EU, not this country and it's peoples?

Call me a remoaner and I see red, Buffy. There's no call for bad manners.

Sounds like we may be developing a plan for no deal now. If nothing else that may make the intransigent EU bods have a rethink. (They can’t just follow the Macaroon’s lead, he may not be in post much longer).

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