Labour official blames all world wars on Jews.

Ha ha ha..I think I meant "elevate" rather than "levitate" in my post (above)

The thought of Corbyn rising and floating above everyone in the HOC doesn't bear thinking about.

Agree GrannyGravy

Well said Day6

As a member of the Labour Party (fact not claimed ) for over 50 years nothing and no one could persuade me to vote for the party I have always been loyal to whilst Momentum is controlling the party and Corbyn is leader. I am constantly accused of hating Corbyn, not true, I will not support a liar , terrorist supporter , whose one ambition is to destroy the Labour Party .

I could not live in a country where the PM was a "friend" of terrorists.

I only hope that at the time of the next General Election people come to their senses and keep Corbyn out of No.10.

Yes, but are there enough of them? I doubt it.Labour voters as opposed to Labour members think he is an idiot.Thank goodness.

If Corbyn and McDonnel are not ashamed of their known political views why the hell is there always a cabal of faithful supporters who ironically challenge those who point it out.

Yes, it's amazing how, even on GN, Corbyn supporters seem to be in denial.

The point is Hamas and Hezbollah are black listed as Terrorist Groups by many countries and their mantra is the annihilation of all of the Jewish people, or am I mistaken?

But they are Corbyn's "friends" - and some people believe this man as PM would be good for the UK.

If he ever gets in to Number Ten it will be in the same way he gained credence when when his party was in disarray, Labour MPs were fighting against him, moderates were being drowned out, the party was split (as it is now) yet Theresa May called an election. She boosted his ratings when very few Labourites wanted his sort of politics.

Since then, hard left Momentum have gained even more power and control who represents the Labour Party, given their dominance of Labours NEC. Only Corbyn supporters are backed.

It's a sad state of affairs that gives a friend of terrorists power only because their opposition, the present government, has had Brexit wranglings to deal with.

Corbyn the opportunist and hard left puppet has relied on the failings of others to levitate his status. We all know the rebellious young-but-naive love him and will vote for him no matter what, alongside the more mature hard-left anti-establishment contingent.

"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6519211/The-2-6m-Israeli-Drone-Dome-Army-used-defeat-Gatwick-UAV.html"
No excuses for being a DM online reader - they get some good stories among all the other rubbish.

Perhaps Israel might be regarded in a more positive light by Gatwick passengers, after the success of their Drone Dome technology. .

PECS

" POGS If we are friends of Israel do we then support the annihilation of all Palestinians?
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I would say you have to define who/what you mean by ' friends of Israel'. Are you using the word 'we' as an individual ?

If you are then that individual may or may not support the idea of the annihilation of Palestinians but if that individual did indeed support the idea of the annihilation of Palestinaians that individual would be as pathetic and vile as as any group /party that advocates the annihilation of ANYBODY including Israelis or the 'kafir' /unbeliever.

If you are a party/group called Friends of Israel , an example would be the Labour Party Friends of Israel , then I certainly would say the answer to your question is most certainly NO. The same as I would say if it were The Labour Friends of Palestine they would not want the annihilation of all Israelis.

The point is Hamas and Hezbollah are black listed as Terrorist Groups by many countries and their mantra is the annihilation of all of the Jewish people, or am I mistaken?. Hamas is a political party I agree but it has been fighting even the other Palestinian Party ' Fatah'. The difference is between Hamas and Fatah is Hamas believes in armed resistence and Fatah negotiation.

As for your other question:-

" it is evident that Israel is determined not to return illegally taken Palestinian land and is changing laws to make life for not Jews more difficult within Israel. Is that OK?

My answer is NO, it is not OK!

Whilst BOTH sides are using arms and rockets then nobody will get anywhere. I do wonder where the Palestine/Israeli conflict would be to date if negotiations were between Fatah and the Israeli government to be honest.

I do not condone any of the nonsense about Jews causing WW2 etc or any discrimination against any person because of their faith or race. I feel cross I have to state that because I support Palestine's cause.

POGS If we are friends of Israel do we then support the annihilation of all Palestinians? There is plenty of recorded evidence of elected Israeli politicians who openly call for that. it is evident that Israel is determined not to return illegally taken Palestinian land and is changing laws to make life for not Jews more difficult within Israel. Is that OK?

However Israeli governments HAVE played a part in the political situation in the middle east as much as any Arab government.

I am not trying to justify the racist voices that call for the destruction of Jews or of Israel. What I am trying to point out that there is appalling behaviour from the current Israeli government which certainly does not calm the troubled waters. To ignore it shows a bias against and racism toward the Palestinians.

Hamas is the legitimate organisation to represent Palestinians If there is ever to be a fair outcome for Palestine and Israel you have to listen to both sides honestly and openly.
There is, whether you like it or not, a link between the actions of Israel's government towards Palestine and the actions /voice of some supporters of Palestine across the world. Similar maybe to the support for the IRA from some of those of Irish heritage in the US and UK at the time of the troubles.

Well said POGS. But the denials will continue

Can somebody who believes Corbyn is not anti_semetic explain why Corbyn calls Hezbollah and Hammas ' friends'? Both groups want the annihilation of all Jewish people do they not. They aren't too bothered about us in the West.

When did it become normal / acceptable for a possible future UK Prime Minister and his cohorts to call Terrorist Organisations 'Friends' and so many of his actions, which are clearly bordering anti- semetism, be seen as the face of the Labour Party?

How can a possible future UK Prime Minister call the likes of Hammas and Hezbollah ' friends' when they are on Terrorist Black Lists both recognised as such by the UK government and others such as the European Union?

On the 26th of July 2017 the European Court of Justice concluded and made a subsequent judgement on Hamas and declared ' the continuation for Hamas to remain on its ' terrorism blacklist ':-

www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/eu-court-upholds-hamas-terror-listing/

It amazes me the words of even Labour Party MP's, are so easily dismissed by Corbyn supporters.

As for Corbyn/McDonnell and their Communist/Marxist credentials why the denial again by his supporters?

If McDonnell states he is a Marxist why not believe him? He does not hide the fact and is presumably proud of his belief in Marxist doctrine and financial policies so why do his supporters feel it necessary to deny what he stands for. Why back him if you cannot believe in his aims and goals.

Corbyn and McDonnell et al, are well known for their political stance whether it be telling us we should Aspire to be like Venezuela, writing for the Morning Star, bringing Maos ' Little Red Book' into the UK Parliament as a doctrine the UK could learn from, the list goes on and on.

If Corbyn and McDonnel are not ashamed of their known political views why the hell is there always a cabal of faithful supporters who ironically challenge those who point it out.

knickas63. Would you explain how admiring a vile anti semetic wall mural in this country is anti Israel and not anti semetic ?

Of course it isn’t Knickers but when you have a leader of the opposition who is well known to dislike Israel and who has so many dodgy Arab friends, this gives the green light to many who are anti-semitic to bang on about their own twisted views.

There are bad eggs and extremists in both parties - but unfortunateley the media chooses only to report on things that meet their own Agenda. The vitriol, racism and downright nastiness of some members of the Governing party are never discussed or reported on. And when it does report on Lab - it is usually twisted, out of context and the apologies given a few months later almost unnoticeable. The vendetta of misinformation and smearing against Corbyn is atrocious. Being anti Israel IS NOT Anti Semitism.

Yes this topic often comes up and there's no solution.
And I don't find the situation acceptable, as I've also said before. I'm just trying to show that it's not simply bully vs victim.
I'm sorry for the Palestinians, I don't blame them for trying to fight back, but their own govt. doesn't help.

We've had this discussion before. I will just ask one question. If roles were reversed and it was a Palestinian state that was suppressing Israeli citizens would you find the situation as acceptable?

ps sorry - this only applies to the Gulf States.

As opposed to the Arab states in the ME which are mostly governed by ruling families, more or less autocratic/ benevolent.

Democratic within their own state. Israel has a prop. rep. electoral system which usually leads to a coalition.
As for ignoring international law - it depends how and by whom the int. law is made.
Should int. law overpower domestic law? Sounds like one of the brexit arguments against the EU.

I might argue 'democratic' with you Fennel! Not very democratic to ignore international law/agreements!

I think the support from the US and UK is because they want to prop up the only non Arab, democratic state in the Middle East.
Because of the oil. And the strategic placement of the Suez Canal.
I don't trust Trump's apparent love of Israel at all. He's also partially dependent on the US Jewish lobby for his position.
It's a very wide subject.

Whilst the State of Israel is no innocent nation and is in breach of many international agreements that is completely different from blaming a Jewish community /individuals for the troubles in the world which is blatantly racist. Same as if you thought Muslims were all to blame for wars.

Trisher,I am condemning them for their words, if only Corbyn had condemned not praised that wall mural .

I condemned on words , you never have ?

Fennel Israel has some of the highest levels of armaments in the world. They are funded and supplied by the US and the UK. It is impossible to argue that these are weapons for defence. They are undoubtedly weapons ofaggression and the amounts being imported have rocketed rapidly in the last few years. They may be small in size but they are better resourced than most other countries.