why has no-one

There is little to chose between Corbyn and May. Both pretended to support Remain in the referendum but kept their heads down and did damn all.

When the result was a narrow victory for leave both bought into this "will of the people - we must deliver brexit "nonsense and continued to ignore all the evidence that the referendum was fraudulent and won by lies, the majority of the population would now prefer to remain in the EU and any kind of brexit will damage our economy and our standing in the world.

The chaos in this country is now due to two very similar politicians who put their own careers before their parties and, more importantly, put their parties before the national interest.

My problem is Parliamentarians were debating the ' deal' and watching the debate it could not fail to be noted so many MP's both from remain and leave camps basically told her to bugger off back to Brussels and renegotiate ' her deal'.

This she did and is called a coward by some who told her to do it! She went back to Brussels and it looks as though she got no further nor help to promote her deal from the likes of Junker/Tusk et al. I presume she will try again , possibly this week but she cannot negotiate with a negotiating partner that is on holiday for Xmas until January 2020 can she!

As for Corbyn he he will pick his moment when he thinks he can 'win the vote'. The same as Theresa May has done over the ' deal'.

As for the OP question ( not the OP poster) then I think if personal dislike of either Corbyn and May were able to be put to one side and a reality check took over then perhaps both Corbyn and May should therefore be called out for the same reasons.

All the other opposition parties want to debate this no-confidence motion but the so-called official opposition keeps letting the country down.

It is so sickening, I can barely listen to the news.

I think it's disgraceful that TM has delayed the vote until mid-Jan, which seems clearly to be game playing. It will be too late to offer alternatives at this stage, other than her deal or no deal, and she is obviously banking on the fact that the many who do not want a "no deal" scenario will have no option but to agree to hers. So much for democracy.

re the timing - I suppose any time a vote of no confidence is proposed is going to result initially in all the 'victim's party members rushing to the victim's defence. Even though they opposed the person in the past. To save their own skin.

The purpose of an Opposition is to force the government's hand and ensure it is combated at every turn. The Conservatives were in disarray at the time having lost Cameron and Osborne, asing them to invoke article 50 was a way of applying political pressure. The Conservative party is still in disarray but it is amazing how many continue to cling to the impression that Mrs May is the brave heroine, she might be being manipulated by powers within the party but she has accepted the role and as such must take responsibility for destroying the democratic process.

Jeremy Corbyn spoke the day after the referendum "demanding" the government invoke Article50 immediately.
He does remind me of a headless chicken somewhat.

Does anyone think he or any other politician would have fared any better with the EU?

I agree with MaizieD and was just about to write her first paragraph! Invoking Article 50 with such a speedy end date was a political tactical error of monumental proportions - like showing your hand too soon.

Leaving the vote till mid-January is such a cop-out as it leaves so little time to look properly at alternatives, should the vote fail to agree TM's deal.

Is there anyone who truly likes her deal, of whatever political persuasion?

The SNP, Liberals, Plaid and Greens have tabled an amendment to Corbyn's motion which would make it a vote of No Confidence in the Government.

Corbyn is sitting on the fence still. Why doesn’t he speak out ? He doesn’t want a general election , he would have to tell the country where he realy stands. He can call for a vote of confidence in the government, why hasn’t he?

I have the utmost confidence in her ability to plunge the UK into chaos. She's done a grand job with it so far and it seems that our last defence, the Constitution, has no power to stop her.

Does anybody actually have confidence in that woman anyway?

Does anyone think he or any other politician would have fared any better with the EU,

Not in the cowardly tory party, no. The referendum was a cynical exercise meant to see off the right wing of the tory party and UKIP. It had nothing at all to do with the good of the country; just with the good of the tory party. Cameron panicked when the result was known and May continued with the panic by rushing to invoke A50 without any plan and without any apparent intention of reconciling the two 'sides' in a vote that has split the country.

had the poisoned chalice handed to her

You make it sound as though she has been a victim in all this. What nonsense. She grabbed that chalice with both hands and proceeded to add to the poison.

Watching the replay of the scene I thought it looked as if they'd both lost their temper.
But maybe Corbyn's move was calculated. Who knows.

I don't hate Jeremy Corbyn and believe himto be a man of principle, but it is those principles I fear.
Theresa May is turning out to be an unmitigated disaster, and will listen to no-one, in the sure and certain knowledge that she is right.
Jacob Rees-Mogg tried to' persuade' her to resign for the good of the country, and is now, I think, attempting to hold the party together.
And in the middle of all this the EU, is cynically enjoying the chaos it generates, just as it did with Ireland, Greece, Spain, Italy, Poland and all the others, until they agree to capitulate stay.

Paddyanne. If Mrs May laid a wreath in honour of terrorists and then said ‘ I was there but don’t know if I was involved’, I would have no respect for her.

172 Labour MP’s had no confidence in Corbyn, most are still in Parliament

What a sly creep that man is-------though not unexpected to try and big himself up. Just what is his game ?

Theresa May has been a far bigger punch bag for the hardline "Brexitier Nutters" within her own party, than from any other political party in the House of Commons.

Yesterday (17/12/18) we had Jacob Rees Mogg after calling for her to resign even though she had convincingly won an earlier confidence ballot called by a Conservative group in parliament giving the electorate the totally nauseating experience of witnessing him stating he was now "totally loyal to her and her government" and she had his full confidence.

What total joke this Tory party and government is, and they are the ones running this country and Brexit, not the Labour party.

I do not like TM's deal and yes, she is stalling. However, that means her dreadful deal will stand a chance given we edge closer to March. If it's not acceptable - what is likely to happen? The EU will not negotiate again.

So, no Brexit or we leave and go down the WTO route - or May's deal tieing us to the EU is the best of a bad job and we go ahead with that, with the Irish border problem not being resolved.

I also have to say poor May has become the political punchbag for every chancer in parliament, like Corbyn and across the UK. Does anyone think he or any other politician would have fared any better with the EU, a divided House of Commons, a Remaining House of Lords, and the British public?

No one could have done more or worked as hard. I am surprised she is still standing given she has type 1 diabetes and had the poisoned chalice handed to her when she became leader of the Conservative party. It's been her main preoccupation. I do admire her strength and diplomacy.

No other politician in my lifetime has had such a term of office. Taking pot shots at her is cheap, whether you want to Remain or Leave. I dislike the deal. I have great sympathy for the women having to see it through though. I do wish one of her pro Brexit colleagues had been able to influence her more. I think some perspective is needed.

I fear we will be tied to the EU and will continue to fork out for that bondage to Brussels.

Corbyn is a weak rat who knows damned well he could not have coped with her workload or mission. My respect for him, which involved his eurosceptic stance (which he has ditched because he sniffed power and appeased his colleagues) has all but vanished. He is a coward, and an opportunist, backed by hard left Momentum bullies.

I now hear that the government won’t give the time - it really is all about brinkmanship as LG said and damn all to do with what’s best for the country

JC was in an impossible position. A vote of no confidence in the government would be lost and he knows that. He gave her the opportunity today to say she’d have the vote this week on the WA which she should have. When, she said she would wait another 4 weeks he went for the no confidence in her - that will be lost of course but had he done nothing he would have been criticised - he can’t win can he whatever he does in this situation we’re in at the momen which is all the fault of TM - which some find hard to accept

Yet you admire Mrs May ...one of THE biggest liars in politics ??How strange .

I do not hate trisher, I dislike him, I dislike liars, do you hate every politician you critcise ? I sssume you do as you see my critcism of Corbyn as hatred