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How to paralyse the country?

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MaizieD Thu 20-Dec-18 15:14:35

So, we don't need Brexit to bring the UK to its knees, just a couple of drones being operated at each of our airports.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754

They're easy to buy, easy to operate and it seems it's difficult to trace the operator of them.

Without very swift action to counter the threat it seems that now every terrorist and malicious person who sees/reads the news has found a perfect way of causing maximum disruption...

Jane10 Sun 23-Dec-18 09:15:16

petra the helicopter or indeed any aircraft could approach from another location and be flying above the aircraft. The drones weren't armed. Just hovering.

MaizieD Sat 22-Dec-18 22:26:21

Presumably you mean that bringing the country to its knees is not paralysing

I'd suggest that a simultaneous drone 'incident' at all the UK's airports could cause a great deal of disruption. 'Paralysis' is probably a bit strong but it was a suggestion, (hence the '?') not an assertion.

Trying to remember what the effect was when that volcano erupted in 2011 and all flights were suspended for 4/5 days.

petra Sat 22-Dec-18 21:46:56

Jane10
The fear was/is that the drone could bring a plane down.
Therefore the drone could bring down a helicopter sent up to bring the drone down.

Elegran Sat 22-Dec-18 20:49:59

They need some of these.

Elegran Sat 22-Dec-18 20:46:47

and this www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/weaponized-drone-defense-tech/

Elegran Sat 22-Dec-18 20:43:23

Petra Jalima Is this relevant to the forcefields? www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/prison-anti-drone-force-field/

Jane10 Sat 22-Dec-18 20:38:26

Elegran I doubt if airport helicopters are routinely equipped with water cannons but perhaps the sort of things used to dump large amounts of water on forest fires could have been deployed until such times as more high tech solutions could be used. It seemed so odd that nothing could apparently be done for days.

Jalima1108 Sat 22-Dec-18 20:17:19

The country is paralyzed?'

You said So, we don't need Brexit to bring the UK to its knees, just a couple of drones being operated at each of our airports.

Presumably you mean that bringing the country to its knees is not paralysing it as some things can still be done when one is on one's knees.

Jalima1108 Sat 22-Dec-18 20:14:41

It was this one!
Thu 20-Dec-18 23:26:09

Jalima1108 Sat 22-Dec-18 20:13:51

Did anyone see the chap on the news who has developed a 'sort of forcefield' that can be deployed at airports. The drones just can't get through them
Yes, I did petra, but I couldn't find a link to the report.

I could have posted about that on this thread - or the other one - or the other one
confused

Anniebach Sat 22-Dec-18 19:45:06

Was the country paralysed?

Elegran Sat 22-Dec-18 19:33:44

Does the airport fire brigade have helicopters with water?

Jane10 Sat 22-Dec-18 17:24:29

Why not fly above the drones and spray powerful water jets on them? That'd destroy their electrics and no problem with 'stray' water instead of stray bullets.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 22-Dec-18 17:18:28

Wasn't me MaizieD, I think you mean Granny23?

Charleygirl5 Sat 22-Dec-18 17:15:34

Our European neighbours must be laughing at us- first Brexit and now this.

BlueBelle Sat 22-Dec-18 17:05:25

There is actually three threads about the same thing. Gatwick, Drones at Gatwick, an£ this one
Pity they can’t be amalgamated

petra Sat 22-Dec-18 16:36:18

And once again 2 people have their faces in the paper without any proof of guilt.

MaizieD Thu 20-Dec-18 23:46:41

The country is paralyzed?

That isn't what I said GG13. Try re-reading my OP and also noting subtle clues like punctuation...

Jalima1108 Thu 20-Dec-18 23:26:09

I think they showed the type of deterrent which could be used at airports on the news this evening. They are already in use in airports abroad. At the moment I can't find the link, it may have been on West Country news.

POGS Thu 20-Dec-18 19:49:19

Varian

Thank you for responding.

varian Thu 20-Dec-18 19:24:05

Here is an observation made last year.

"The three issues are how to deter people from flying drones near aircraft; how better to identify them so that avoidance action can be taken; and steps to limit the chances of intrusion into active airspace.

Deterrence is being tackled by education, such as the Civil Aviation Authority’s Drone Code, which urges “Stay well away from aircraft, airports and airfields”. Drones must be kept below 400 feet.

BALPA Is calling for “more high profile prosecutions of offenders” as well as compulsory registration of drone owners, with the rules made quite clear.

Identification and avoidance is mainly being tackled by the private sector, with the possibility of Government action. Drones could be fitted with transponders, which transmit data that would allow air-traffic controllers and pilots avoid conflicts. The police could also use the information to trace offenders.

There are also calls for geo-fencing around sensitive sites: an electronic “barrier” which suitably equipped drones are unable to penetrate. However, both transponders and GPS systems used in conjunction with geo-fencing could be disabled.

Could terrorists use drones to attack aircraft?
Security experts are worried about the prospect of an attack by a drone fitted with explosives. Terrorists are thought more likely to target aircraft on the ground rather than in flight."

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/drone-gatwick-airport-closure-aircraft-flight-risks-runway-diversion-disruption-danger-terrorism-a7820116.html

Alexa Thu 20-Dec-18 19:20:10

Regarding barrage balloons, two of those could each be anchored many metres below to separate mobile land vehicles, and the ropes could support the sides of a net. This system would then trawl the affected area of sky and capture the drones unharmed, and then they could be identified.

POGS Thu 20-Dec-18 19:18:48

Varian

" Other countries have anticipated this sort of event and have the technology to prevent it, "
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Interesting could you expand on your knowledge of what other countries have in place to prevent their airports. being subjected to this occurrence.

Alexa Thu 20-Dec-18 19:15:50

How high can barrage balloons rise? Barrage balloons trail ropes which entrap flying objects.

petra Thu 20-Dec-18 18:52:43

Did anyone see the chap on the news who has developed a 'sort of forcefield' that can be deployed at airports. The drones just can't get through them.
He put it to the government but because of the law they couldn't be deployed.
It's as if all his birthdays and xmases have come at once. He can name any price he wants grin