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Trump's wall

(85 Posts)
Luckygirl Sat 22-Dec-18 10:23:09

Just been reading about this - what a prize idiot that man really is!

The thought of going down the route of dividing nations in that way makes me feel sick. A huge blot on the landscape and a total waste of money.

Buffybee Sun 23-Dec-18 11:52:16

So no comment from anyone about European countries building these huge border fences?
Ok!
Just America then, is it?

Buffybee Sun 23-Dec-18 11:48:09

I specifically said that I did not like Trump but that America is more than just this person.
Also wondering as the thread is about Border walls, why we can't compare what America is doing with other countries.
Or do we have to stick rigidly to knocking America?

oldbatty Sun 23-Dec-18 11:43:50

So we have a few Trump fans here.what specifically do you like about him and his policies please?

Anja Sun 23-Dec-18 11:37:54

You see I was under the impression this thread was about The Trump and His Wall.

It might be a lovely idea if you were to start a thread about other walls so we can be educated. You could start with The Great Wall of China and then, for us ignorant Picts, perhaps a passing reference to Hadrian’s Wall. If you wish it to be truly eclectic you might want to include Wall Street which I believe ‘not doing great’ (to use the parlance of your esteemed Donald). Then there’s the Wailing Wall and the Berlin Wall. I think there might be or have been armed guards on the latter too, but I’m sure you’ll be able to put me right on that.

Yes, that thread could run and run.

Buffybee Sun 23-Dec-18 11:28:31

That's obvious, dear!

Anja Sun 23-Dec-18 11:26:42

Of course I am! ? I’m a very ignorant person ?

Buffybee Sun 23-Dec-18 11:24:51

You're probably also ignorant about the double 20 foot fences topped with razor wire, built by Spain to protect the areas they own in North Africa, from illegal immigrants (Cueta and Melilla being two of them).
The fences with regular watch posts, has a road running between them for Police patrols, underground cables provide spotlights, noise and movement sensors and video cameras to a central control booth.
Also Hungary built a 13ft double border barrier on its border with Serbia and Croatia in 2015.
Which is unbelievably 325 miles long.
What I'm wondering Anja is why you have not mentioned these border fences, much closer to home, while ranting about America.
Just don't like ignorance. No double standards.

Buffybee Sun 23-Dec-18 10:28:14

Anja odfod
yes there is a Spanish - Gibraltar border check.
You're just showing your ignorance now.

maryeliza54 Sun 23-Dec-18 09:01:24

His holiday to Florida has been cancelled - now he’s going to have all that time on his hands to tweet and make policy singlehanded - what a frightening prospect.

M0nica Sun 23-Dec-18 08:29:34

The man is a coward. He dodged the draft and now is scared to defend his country from external thread. He has increased the danger of terrorism world wide by his sudden withdrawl of troops from Syria and Afghanistan, letting down his allies and his own paper.

It would be a better idea if he built a wall round the whole country and then he could squat behind it pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist.

Make America great again? He has made the country a laughing stock, governed(?) by a man who runs scared and who cannot even be relied on to support his friends.

absent Sun 23-Dec-18 05:52:19

The Trump Wall is just a vanity project.

Anja Sun 23-Dec-18 05:40:55

WTF are you on about Buffybear? Gibraltar–Spanish border check ?

You’re ‘not defending Trump’? Nah! Of course not ?

Iam64 Sat 22-Dec-18 20:45:44

Love it absent

absent Sat 22-Dec-18 18:50:13

There is a popular American saying about problem solving, but it seems that Donald Trump is unaware of it:

"Show me a 10-foot wall and I'll show you an 11-foot ladder".

Buffybee Sat 22-Dec-18 15:59:59

My friend lives in Gibralter and the Spanish border is manned by armed guards.
No one ever accuses the Spanish of
"getting closet racists to unite behind a cause and spread fear and hatred".
Try marching past a Spanish Guardia Civil and you would be arrested.

I'm not defending Trump as a person but America is more than just this one person.
I'm just wondering why other countries are not thought of in the same way.

Anja Sat 22-Dec-18 15:38:14

It’s nothing to do with guarding borders though it? It’s all about getting closet racists to unite behind a cause and spread fear and hatred. In the same way that AH vilified the Jews. Even Trumps rallies have the same flavour as Hitler’s. Rabble rousing. The supreme egoists both of them. It’s all about Trump he doesn’t give a toss about America.

BB spot on.

Buffybee Sat 22-Dec-18 14:39:20

I'm not really bothered what America does about its borders, that's up to them and their Government.
Or for that matter, China, Russia, Turkey, Japan or any other country.
I don't think that there are many Countries in the World where you can just wander in and out of without customs or border controls.

BlueBelle Sat 22-Dec-18 14:27:43

He’s dangerous, he’s racist, he’s homophobic, he’s probably mentally ill he certainly has a lot of very childish traits worst of all his actually very limited in brains he has been likened to a fifth grader unfortunately there are always fools who will believe a leader, right or wrong Think Hitler
If they build a wall I hope he’s behind it (the wrong side, for him that is )

EllanVannin Sat 22-Dec-18 14:24:26

It wouldn't be PC to give my own personal views Anja and besides I prefer not to start WW3 on this kind of a forum.

Iam64 Sat 22-Dec-18 14:13:30

I don't hesitate to criticise DT or his intentions. He's a dangerous individual. He is giving a lot of other racists the idea their beliefs are ok. They aren't.

Anja Sat 22-Dec-18 14:09:37

Exactly what do you think it says Ellen confused

EllanVannin Sat 22-Dec-18 13:49:10

I don't think we're in a position to criticise what DT's intentions are. For that amount to have been raised speaks volumes does it not ?

Iam64 Sat 22-Dec-18 13:47:26

NiceNanny3- does the fact he's carrying out an election promise make it ok to behave as he does.
The man is a dangerous, manipulative, lying bar steward.

nigglynellie Sat 22-Dec-18 13:41:22

Does that include Scottish MP,s paddyann? You're right about one thing though, it would be fantastic to have a truly English parliament!!

Anja Sat 22-Dec-18 12:11:39

No he isn’t Nn3 he promised the Mexicans would pay. Of just spotted Lucky’s made the same point. But I’ll let me post stand for emphasis.

Unfortunately all his election ‘promises’ were hate-filled and appealed to certain people with the same mind set.