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New Years Honours

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Anniebach Fri 28-Dec-18 22:37:24

Twiggy is now a Dame !

trooper7133 Sat 29-Dec-18 16:32:11

I’ve been a psychiatric nurse for 40 years with hardly a day off sick. People like me should be honoured ??

MawBroon Sat 29-Dec-18 16:12:43

Yes he has, last time round.

Anniebach Sat 29-Dec-18 16:04:36

Andy Murray has won - The U.S.Open, Olympic Gold. 2 Wimbledon wins and has not received a knighthood

Nonnie Sat 29-Dec-18 15:49:57

I don't know where the BBC got that figure of 70% being to private individuals. I've just counted on the first 6 pages and there are 30 in the public sector and only 9 private individuals. Perhaps all the minor honours go to the little people and the higher ones to the public sector?

Nonnie Sat 29-Dec-18 15:44:32

Theoddbird here is the complete list: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/768173/NY19_Queens_List__4_.pdf

kathyd Sat 29-Dec-18 15:25:46

Andy Murray got a knighthood for winning a tennis match. Such nonsense.

eilyann Sat 29-Dec-18 14:36:36

SIR John Redwood???? Why?

sodapop Sat 29-Dec-18 14:30:35

I agree Paddyann all these celebs, sports people etc are handsomely remunerated for doing their job why then are they given an honour ?
The mine rescue team and others of their ilk are thoroughly deserving of their honours
(despite what Elon Musk says ).
Any volunteer rescuers etc are the people who should be honoured along with unpaid charity workers and those who raise money and awareness for charities.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 29-Dec-18 14:21:52

My father always complained that as there were no newspapers available in Scotland on Ne'erday, he never knew who was in the Honours' List, so he would probably have been quite content to see the list published early if he had still been in the land of the living.

Theoddbird Sat 29-Dec-18 14:21:23

I am sure there must be a complete list somewhere. We only hear about well known names. Hundreds of ordinary folk get awards as well

annep Sat 29-Dec-18 14:15:04

just tap on each page.

annep Sat 29-Dec-18 14:14:23

www.bbc.co.uk/news/ampstories/honours/index.html

Some who have turned down an honour ( if the link is working!)

Nanny41 Sat 29-Dec-18 14:05:14

The men who rescued the Thailand boys definately deserved recognition, they should have been made SIR.
And yes when are these lovely "lollipop" people going to get recognition, they do a wonderful job in all weather and only get mentioned occasionally. I think we ordinary people should get to vote or get to nominate.

annep Sat 29-Dec-18 14:00:57

Glad the mine rescuers were recognised.

annep Sat 29-Dec-18 13:59:27

I agree with Anniebach. Getting it for doing your job is just wrong. Especially when you actually love your job and are well paid( rich celebs, top public servants etc).
There are many people ( Gransnetters included) doing charity work. I have a friend who does a very tiring worthwhile charity job often overnight. As do many of her colleagues. These are the folk awards should be given to. But I don't agree with anyone getting titles. We should be getting rid of titles. Ridiculous tradition. Absolutely hate it.

GabriellaG54 Sat 29-Dec-18 13:58:59

TRIPE

lemongrove Sat 29-Dec-18 13:38:17

I agree Day6 especially with the thought that gongs are given for those who cause the Nation to sit up and take notice ( in a good way!)
Mind you, I can’t get too heated on this subject, it’s a bit, yawn yawn really to me.
There has been bitterness and dislike of the system for a long time, in fact Hancock’s Half Hour mentions it ( turned down yet again!)

EllanVannin Sat 29-Dec-18 13:36:16

I'm so glad that those rescuers were recognised in the Honours and also the emergency services during the Manchester bombing. Couldn't care less about others.

Day6 Sat 29-Dec-18 13:23:54

The men who rescued those young boys from the caves have been awarded The George Cross

I hadn't read that Annie. No they are truly deserving. It was a dangerous undertaking. They are truly heroic.

However - the honours system is a complete joke. Wealthy people who get paid for doing what they enjoy (and get all the perks of fame and riches, etc) are awarded.

Twiggy's gong is a bit retrospective too. She has had her day and I am afraid modelling clothes, even if she was iconic at the time, is not deserving of honour. It's time this farce ceased and honours were limited to those whose individual deeds caused the nation to sit up and take notice. Stars of stage, screen, pop videos and sporting arenas are not deserving, imo.

Jane43 Sat 29-Dec-18 13:15:58

A lot of these people being rewarded in this way have already received rewards that the majority of us can only dream of - a life of being very well rewarded - financially and emotionally, for doing things they love - be it writing books, acting, presenting tv shows, playing sport or modelling clothes. I know some of them do a lot for charities but they are often advised to do this for tax breaks. I completely agree with the second paragraph of Nonnie’s post and Ginnie42’s post..

harrigran Sat 29-Dec-18 13:04:43

DH was awarded the OBE in the Queen's birthday honours some years ago, we had to keep it a secret for so long it is a real test of strength. On the day they were published we just sent DC a message saying " go out and buy the Times and read it " smile

Lancslass1 Sat 29-Dec-18 13:01:11

I agree with you about Crossing Patrol people,Anniebach
They are doing a job which suits them and if they decided to do the same job for many years so what?
why give them a gong?
David Beckham?
No way
This is a man who has a vast amount of money and is therefore able to escape prosecution for speeding by paying someone to get him off.
As for Celebrities being awarded a "gong" for their Charity Work it must be easy to give money away if one has a vast amount of it.
I telephoned someone who has a Knighthood because he was involved with a homeless Charity.
I had a lot of good quality warm clothing to give away last January.
I asked where I could take the clothes to the people who. would benefit and was told he didn't know because he was on the Board!
Give a Knighthood to the men who risked their lives in saving the young footballers in Thailand,to those in medicine who discover a cure for serious diseases ,not to so called Celebrities
(Sorry Annie Bach I now see you mentioned the Cave Rescue people)
I went right off Jenni Murray when she was on Celebrity University Challenge and said her name was Dame Jenni Murray.
Bah humbug.

icanhandthemback Sat 29-Dec-18 12:53:45

I don't have a problem for people getting a recognition for their work, their volunteering or courage. It's not as if they get a huge sum of money with it. I think it is rather sad that we can't recognise achievement without the negative comments.

Oldwoman70 Sat 29-Dec-18 12:35:50

One of the men who rescued the boys trapped underground lives locally, he is very unassuming and when interviewed on local radio today said his reward was reuniting the boys with their families.

sarahellenwhitney Sat 29-Dec-18 12:31:00

I have no objection to giving out night hoods, dames awards, honours but what about those who life has been twenty four seven in saving or repairing lives. Doctors, nurses. fire fighters. medics. Dedicated but rarely noticed.