BREXIT: Planning for No Deal.

The precarious state of the global economy is all the more reason that we should remain in the EU, the world's largest and strongest trading block. The worst thing we could do would be to leave now.

I am beginning to think we will never Leave now. There are too many plots or planned coups. Or amendments to motions to thwart it.
I feel hugely disappointed. All the euphoria from the morning after the referendum when I felt such hope and enthusiasm has just about dissipated.
Politics is a dirty business indeed.

The dishonest cheating leave campaign was a dirty business indeed. Let's hope this brexit nonsense can be stopped.

Apparently TM is going to press the theme that stopping Brexit will mean voters will loose faith in democracy. Well, I have to say voters have already lost faith in democracy if this is the best our elected politicians can do, they are nothing more than a self interested rabble.
Speculation this morning is that Bercow is going to bend the rules again to allow a stop Brexit movement, someone has got to do something to break the deadlock.

Although I would like parliament to decide to drop the whole idea of Brexit I think it would be wrong to do so. The only democratic thing to do now is to give us the opportunity to vote for the 'deal' or to stay in the EU under current terms. Anything else would be too divisive and undemocratic. I would hope that people now know more than they did when they were promised a better life outside the EU and would vote accordingly, if not for their own sake, for the next and future generations.

As I have said many time, Leave voters have nothing to fear if they believe they were right and than leaving is what the country wants.

I agree, Nonnie; also I think TM may be wrong in thinking a majority of people will be appalled if leaving is thwarted, as latest polls suggest that the majority are now in favour of remaining..

humpty I'm not sure she does think that. I don't think she is that stupid but I haven't managed to work out why she keeps saying what she does. Does she have a master plan none of us knows about? No other explanation imo.

Her use of such inflammatory language is highly irresponsible. She is trying to characterise "no brexit" as just as unthinkable as "no deal" - which it is not.

Any kind of brexit, including her deal, would irrevocably damage our country. Most MPs know very well that is true and they should do what they are paid for-- exercise their judgement and revoke Article 50 as soon as TM's sorry deal is voted down.

varian what TM is doing is almost as wrong as what Boris and co did during the run up to the referendum. It beggars belief that so many people are taken in by it all. She seems to me to be doing a lot of campaigning in factories, why does she think that is the best approach? Presumably she chose factories where the owners voted Leave? Would she dare to do that in the City institutions?

Well, this time she's chosen a factory which was apparently in receipt of a large chunk of EU money:

twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1084809819511549952

Sorry everyone I need to sound off. Listening to PM and this %&£%$^%$* backstop came up again. Why doesn't anyone say that if we sign up to this we will not be able to negotiate anything? The EU will hold the trump card and call the tune if they are able to hold that against us. Isn't that blindingly obvious? Is that we would do if we were in the same position in any trade negotiations? I'm having a strop!

We cannot get out of the backstop unilaterally, we will need the agreement of the 27 EU members, and that is never going to happen!!

GG you and I know that, why doesn't the BBC?

Nonnie I try to avoid the BBC’s political coverage.

why doesn't anyone say that if we sign up to this we will not be able to negotiate anything
It doesn't need to be said: most people understood the implications the day the paper came out.

leave on WTO, we will be fine, and our government is full of liars who do not look after the majority and democracy.

Traitor May's deal is remain. Such lies

I look forward to out totally..

nothing to be scared of

petra don't you think the BBC should state the obvious? I'm a news junkie and haven't heard them say it once although they keep stating other obvious things. Some people clearly need it spelled out although there clearly are some who are not listening!

Nonnie
I too am a news junkie. But I've come to the conclusion that most news presenters understand diddly squat about Brexit.
I'm continually left open mouthed or shouting my head off at some of the gumff they come out with.

It makes me shudder to think that anyone could possibly think that "leave on WTO, we will be fine"

Here are seven reasons that sum up why a no-deal Brexit and defaulting to WTO rules would be bad for British businesses and the wider economy.

theconversation.com/no-deal-seven-reasons-why-a-wto-only-brexit-would-be-bad-for-britain-102009

This list is the countries which trade only on WTO rules:

Holy See
Mauritania
Monaco
Palau
Timor-Leste
Sao Tome and Principe
Somalia
South Sudan

medium.com/@MrWeeble/who-actually-trades-solely-under-wto-rules-1b6127ce33c6

This is the league the UK would be reduced to. How could any sane UK citizen accept becoming a member of this minnows club?

varian spouts nonsense , so ill informed, bless you dear.. end of story... we are leaving on wto. her deal will fail as it is a lie to remain....
dear never mind, all will be fine once we are out...I know exactly what I voted for. out and no ties...

it is democracy? remember ....

Yea so called democracy got the Labour Party in the mess they’re in now, so we have a useless government and an even more useless opposition.
Then along comes an idiot that styles himself andycameron69 who thinks a leap into the unknown is a good idea, maybe he is a financial trader who is going to make a lot of money out of no deal chaos. Or maybe he is just another nutter who really should be wearing Gilet Jaune protesting about everything.

David perhaps when we see a post which is obviously written by someone who doesn't know what they are talking about we should simply ignore it rather than responding in kind? If we all did that they would give up and go away.

No shortage of controversy on Gransnet either way only a fool wants “no deal”.
But there are plenty that want a cake and eat it deal, including Boris, JRM and the Brexit extremists.

David wanting a cake and eat it deal is childlike because it is not, and never will be, available. Those people said we could have it but have not admitted that it was all lies and, unfortunately, many people believed it and still do.

We need a media which examines all claims and tells us what is genuine and what is pie in the sky but we don't have that. They want to give equal weight to all arguments but I think they go too far in being 'fair' and not emphasizing which claims are true and which are plainly untrue.

Philip Hammond told business leaders that the “threat” of a no-deal Brexit could be taken “off the table” within days and potentially lead to Article 50 “rescinded”, a leaked recording of a conference call reveals.

The Chancellor set out how a backbench Bill could effectively be used to stop any prospect of no deal. He suggested that ministers may even back the plan when asked for an “assurance” by the head of Tesco that the Government would not oppose the motion.

He claimed next week’s Bill, which could force the Government to extend Article 50, was likely to win support and act as the “ultimate backstop” against a no-deal Brexit, as a “large majority in the Commons is opposed to no deal under any circumstances”.

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