What next?

There is no denying the reality that the UK has an ambivalent relationship with the EU now and is likely to have one for some considerable time. But these mixed feelings – which run through us as a people and our institutions too like seaside rock – do not make it impossible to revoke Article 50.

Similarly no one suggests that if we were to revoke Article 50 now we would be barred from re-notifying our desire to leave later, if that was the result of our conversation. That is a decision the then government would be free to take. The warning from the Court of Justice was intended as a bar only on using revocation as a ruse to extend the negotiating period. European law will accommodate the messy reality of where we are as a nation.

It is legally possible. And it is the right thing too. We have to believe that it is not beyond us, collectively and in good faith, to find a way for a national conversation to take place. We must be ready to believe we can go forward together. Because at the end of the day there is nowhere else to go. We must revoke and reconsider.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-article-50-vote-no-confidence-theresa-may-eu-revoke-reflect-a8730461.html

Correct Ginny42, they won't be able to study abroad but this shouldn't worry our MPs they will still be able to afford for their children to go. I still can't see why all our problems of bad roads, NHS are still being based on the EU.

My thoughts entirely Lyndyloo!

Mt thoughts entirely Lyndyloo

My thoughts entirely lyndyloo!

Retired65,
Solange is correct about study abroad on the Erasmus grants system not being possible for the young after we leave the EU. It is funded by the EU. Of course the wealthy will be able to afford to study abroad if they have the right qualifications, but young people will not be eligible for the grant after we leave and it will be beyond most people's means.

I worked in this sector until two years ago and lost a part of my job as a result of advance planning for Brexit.

'Shambles' doesn't even cover it does it?!!! So we have a PM who cannot control her own party, many MPs on both sides who vote for their own ends with no regard to what is in the best interests of the country, a party in government who has signally failed to make adequate preparations for any of the possible outcomes, a dearth of civil servants who know how to negotiate, expats in fear of what the future holds for them, rampant racism, a ferry company with no ships...oh I could go on. I am ashamed of my country. If I were younger, I would be very tempted to leave the country.

Solonge, why do you think your grandchildren won't be able to spend a year abroad, during their degree course when we leave the EU? I am sure that in the future we will be able to work and live in the EU if we want to. What we need to do is train our own people up to do some of the jobs done by others from abroad. I read the other day that people are not eating out so much these days so that those working in restaurants had lost their jobs in some areas of the country.

Solonge - Typical comment of a remainer. “All because they don’t like foreigners”!! This so called dislike of foreigners isn’t at the root of the problem at all. Some communities have really suffered due to the sudden influx of migrants. Everyone has rights and this is about far more than your grandchildrens’ rights to go globetrotting around Europe.

The roads, the congestion, the housing crisis. The school places. Trying to get a doctor’s appointment. The nonsense about people only coming here because they speak English. This country is falling apart. There were dire warnings when the eastern blocs joined. Of course they were pooh poohed by the liberal minded intellectuals. It’s happened. Things aren’t right. The prisons are full and i dread to think what this country will be like in 20 years time. It’s not all down to the EU but no longer being shackled to Brussels will help.

Here here Lyndiloo, well said, I totally agree with you.

No other country apart from the vile ones that kill their citizens like Saudi will trade with us.

Solonge, where do you get your knowledge from to decide that this is what will happen?

Why did Cameron instigate this and where is he now?

It's all an embarrassment... we have gone from a respected country to a laughing stock of the world... we cannot call ourselves "Great Britain" any more... more like a sinking Britain.

so many comments from so many people that haven't studied economics, politics, who know nothing about trade deals and tariffs. Ive heard mention of 'we can trade under WTO rules' well yes we can....but only if we are accepted by all countries..two have refused to accept us. Secondly it can take 10 years to negotiate a trade deal. Jeez...I am horrified by the number of people that think they know about the EU and how it all works! you don't! if we leave without a deal we are finished. No other country apart from the vile ones that kill their citizens like Saudi will trade with us.....and we will be so weak....pathetic. Idiots.

Do you really think the government are going to replace the funding that the EU have given countless numbers of projects in the north, wales and Cornwall?

I think you'll find that as a 'net contributor' we put in more than we get out financially. We may gain in other areas like immigrants doing low wage jobs so it isn't quite as easy to quantify.

I am not anti-Europe, I want an organisation which is less bureaucratic and one which manages its finances properly.

If there was another vote, I would vote Leave because I think that to go back on the original vote would be a travesty.

If the vote was legally binding....if the campaign for leave hadn't been found to have broken the law...then I would agree. But no on both counts. We look like a banana republic at present! Im a nurse my husband a doctor....do you have any idea how the NHS has been impacted by this stupid, idiotic vote? noticed how many nurse and medic vacancies there are in the NHS right now? we cant plug the gap with our own staff because this dumb government cut student nurses and doctors...and to really make sure, the government cut the stipend the nurses were given whilst training...so now....you pay thousands to train as a nurse and the vast majority never earn over 26k...most much less. Families are being split up, this vile government refusing to promise the EU nationals can stay. Cancer Research programmes cancelled here...excellent scientists work cancelled as the money that came from the EU has been taken back to EU countries and the programmes given to EU teams. I despise any idiot that voted for this....nothing good...absolutely nothing good has come out of this. Unforgiveable. My kids all went on the Erasmus scheme, all could spend a year abroad during their degrees...my grandchildren wont be allowed to do this....all those Brexit voters have done is take away Brits rights of freedom to live and work in the EU....probably all because they don't like foreigners!

The COUNTRY voted LEAVE- so there u go nothing to see here move along...

Well said quizqueen

@EllanVannin do you mean the projects 'funded' by the eu with half of the money we (the British and us hard earned dosh) gave to them after the eu squandered the other half of it - all by UNELECTED members who want to dictate exactly what each and every one of us has the right to, ie what we see on the internet, advertising and even to who owns the info on us all... we are better off without their backhanded 'funding'-

Ellanvannin
re your comment-you say the EU funds things here, where exactly do you think that money comes from? The EU does not produce money from a tree. The UK is the third biggest contributor, we can just cut out the middle man and fund our own choice of projects. The UK pays over 50 million pounds a day to the EU for the pleasure of so called 'Free Trade' and them telling us what to do all the time. No thanks.

We don’t have to ask anyone’s permission now, we have always had the power of veto and what has the fact that 3 of your grandchildren own there homes have anything to do with it

The same could be said about the Brexiteer’s and Maybe there lies the problem. If we could have maybe looked at the middle way then this hell show could have been avoided!

Do you really think the government are going to replace the funding that the EU have given countless numbers of projects in the north, wales and Cornwall?

If we hadn’t spent 40 years paying vast sums of money to the EU, possibly our NHS, our housing stock, our roads etc might be in better shape. And yes I voted leave and would again, and yes I had a father, uncles and aunts in the services during the war, and yes I remember the austerity period that followed the war. But at least we ruled ourselves and if we made a mistake we didn’t have to ask 27 other countries with their own axes to grind for permission for anything.
I have 9 grandchildren, ranging in age between 27 and 14. 3 own their own homes....if they can do it so can others. I get totally sick of hearing about the poor youngsters who can’t afford to buy a house. They won’t until they realise life doesn’t hand you a damned thing, you have to work for it, and not expect to start with everything your parents have spent a lifetime getting

I think this should be decided by MPs...not by a free vote, but a secret vote. This would be fairly democratic, as everyone had a chance to vote for their MP and they are representatives, not delegates.

It could be very quick...members could be given a week or two to spend in their constituencies, judging views and prospects. They could then vote with their consciences, without fearing the whips or the media.