What next?

we had a vote
the majority of the UK voted leave
that is democracy

so we leave totally

trade on WTO

no problem at all. looking forward to GB not being ruled by non-elected EU leaders,
time for me to celebrate

I don’t think those statements contradict each other either Nonnie which I why I headed my post ‘reassuring’. ??

Nonnie, 50% here since we arrived in 2009- not all due to Brexit, but yes, at least 20%. And if and when the £ tanks (as is all planned so that a few can make a fortune on exchange rates) - then how far can it go, 60%, 70% down on income.
To which the cost of private health care will have to be added?

Fennel UK pensioners in Europe have already lost 20% of their pensions because the £ has fallen by 20%

Urmston ^The Square Mile could see up to 12,000 jobs lost in the short-term aftermath of Brexit with thousands more at stake longer term, the City of London Corporation warned.

But Reuters’ survey, conducted over six weeks between August and September, found that London is likely to remain the world’s international financial services hub after Brexit.^

I don't think those contradict each other, perhaps we could lose 12,000 jobs and still be the world's international financial services hub.

Reassuring:
Many bankers and politicians predicted after the June 2016 referendum that leaving the EU would prompt a mass exodus of jobs and business and deal a crippling blow to London’s position in global finance.

In fact, several companies are Brexit-proofing their businesses, as reported by International Investment.

The Square Mile could see up to 12,000 jobs lost in the short-term aftermath of Brexit with thousands more at stake longer term, the City of London Corporation warned.

But Reuters’ survey, conducted over six weeks between August and September, found that London is likely to remain the world’s international financial services hub after Brexit.

Cherrytree59. ??
Yet again.

Exchange rate + loss of health care provision, depending on the country. And so much stress and uncertainty.

People living in Europe with income generated in the UK could be badly affected after Brexit.
Exchange rate plus uncertainty of continuation.

So am I Varian, so am I, for sure.

55 days.....

I so hope you are wrong, Jura. There would be no need for any of this if the brexit nonsense was stopped. It could be and it should be stopped.

There have been predicitions of violence and civil unrest if Brexit is not carried out, hard Brexit in fact. And I am sure that will be the case- Farage, Ukip, the EDL, BF - they are all getting ready. Government policy has always been that we must never give in the threats of deeds of violence, or terrorism, wherever it comes from.

However- I'll make another prediction- which concerns me a lot more as it woule be very long term, and in so many ways so much more damaging. We all know financial services are leaving, have left ot preparing to. And so many businesses- some huge providers of employment, and taxes too.

But perhaps even worse, and little talked about- is the massive brain, talent, ability, entrepreneurial, research, inovation- drain. Intelligent young people see no future in Brexit Britain and 1000s will not stay 'behind' on a little isolated island- where they will be wasted. All the above rely on EU and international joint activities, cooperation, intelligence and so much more. This is really sad- tragic indeed.

Theresa May turns again to Brussels, hoping to change a deal she had already declared was immutable. EU officials and governments have told her there is no possibility of deleting the “backstop” article rejected by Tory MPs. With a possible no-deal Brexit now less than two months away, big corporations as well as small businesses are increasingly alarmed. Warnings of possible shortages of food and drugs abound. The prime minister, however, insists the only alternative to her deal is no-deal and that allowing the people to vote on it would amount to betraying them.

What do we think about the performance of Theresa May???

I know who represents me and who is voting exactly as I'd wish him to do.
No split in the SNP who are "singing from the same hymn sheet" as I am.
Of course there are wealthy powerful figures who aim to bribe persuade others to their points of view - on both sides of brexit and both sides of the house.

Day6; can I ask you who you do think represents you? Tim Wetherspoon, perhaps?

Of course. No argument there. The brexit vote proved that didn't it?

As can front page lying headlines in the press....

Yes. As I said, I am well aware of that but please don't tell me that their only influences are from their electorate.
Business interests? Party policies? Whip's office? As our MPs are not mandated, they are open to persuasion so the Bransons, Robinsons at al can certainly have a sgnificant indirect influence even without voting in HoC!

MPs are the only ones voting on the deal or non deal at the moment. Those who get up and give speeches or twitter about something are influential but don’t “represent” anyone. MPs are “representatives” by definition.

*persuasion

It's a bit naive to suggest that only elected members can influence outcomes. Yes they're the ones who pass legislation but they, like members of the public, are open to persasion (and possibly other less respectable and legitimate pressures!)

Blair and Branson aren’t in parliament and not in a position to vote on any current proposals . Anymore than Dyson, Nigel Lawson, Tommy Robinson, Farage et al.

In reply to that Labaik, can you explain why the likes of pro EU Tony Blair and billionaire Richard Branson represent you and other Remainers, because they sure as hell don't represent me or my peers.

I really don't understand why so many people think that Johnson and Rees Mogg represent them and have their best interests at heart...

Just read mumsnet. Seems their views coincide with mine. Thank you Varian. In NZ, ex-pats that I’ve met think leaving is just crazy! Food here is at least twice the price than the UK currently, petrol similar in price, houses similar in price with wages less than in the UK. At least people now have to be resident before they are allowed to buy.
Our politicians seem no further forward so wondering what tomorrow’s amendments will bring. I will be glad to come home to the UK shortly but feel this whole thing is out of control! What uncertain times we live in and crashing out will only be OK for those who have already taken measures to ensure their financial and personal safety e.g. Farage, Rees-Mogg.
It’s scary!