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Alex Salmond arrested.

(116 Posts)
Katek Thu 24-Jan-19 10:02:46

Breaking news on all media-what has he done?

EllanVannin Thu 24-Jan-19 15:21:08

Horrible,horrible horrible !! I never liked the snide anyway.

maryeliza54 Thu 24-Jan-19 16:48:05

It’s really irrelevant whether you lie him or not - really likeable people can be sexual criminals and very unlikebske people can behave perfectly properly. I have to say that I’d always admired him and am really shocked at the scale of the charges. A lot of his friends, family and supporters must be devastated at his even being charged in the first place

maryeliza54 Thu 24-Jan-19 16:48:31

Lie =like obvs

Jane10 Thu 24-Jan-19 16:51:13

Yes. It must be such a shock. The number and scale of charges. I reckon it will be a very nasty court case for all sides. Best leave the subject for now.

wildswan16 Thu 24-Jan-19 17:01:51

Agree jane10. We are ignorant about the rights and wrongs of the charges. Less speculation the better.

Luckygirl Thu 24-Jan-19 17:20:50

It is shocking that he is facing so many serious charges, rather than an isolated incident. It remains to be seen whether he is guilty or innocent.

FarNorth Thu 24-Jan-19 17:33:36

In a nutshell political affiliation and referendum debates don’t matter in this. If he’s innocent, he’s innocent, if he’s guilty, he’s guilty.

That's true. No-one, I hope, would want facts to be concealed in order to further political aims.
But I agree with Granny23 that if AS is found guilty it will be devastating for the many, many people who have trusted him.

EllanVannin Thu 24-Jan-19 17:35:39

Why is it irrelevant, Maryeliza ? Because not to me it isn't.

When I dislike the look of someone,intensely, it usually also tells me that there's something shifty about them also. I've rarely been wrong, even in " real " life.

EllanVannin Thu 24-Jan-19 17:36:41

I loathed Cyril Smith !! Enough said.

BlueBelle Thu 24-Jan-19 18:05:10

EllenVanin that’s nonsense everyone who meets a person will have a different view they can’t all be right or all wrong Some of the nicest most personable people are ‘wronguns’ that’s why so many people who hear someone is a murderer or rapists say ‘but he was a lovely man’ or woman I certainly always admired Rolf Harris I thought he was kindly and a lovely family man and was shocked to hear what he’d been up to

maryeliza54 Thu 24-Jan-19 18:11:26

Well let’s hope you’re over jury age EV

HurdyGurdy Thu 24-Jan-19 18:23:30

EllanVannin - I am astonished that you judge people on the way their facial features are arranged and the genetics that caused them to be arranged so.

Jane10 Thu 24-Jan-19 18:24:01

maryeliza54 grin

Jalima1108 Thu 24-Jan-19 18:26:45

really likeable people can be sexual criminals and very unlikebske people can behave perfectly properly.
That is so true, and when someone is very likeable but has actually committed unspeakable acts it can then make it difficult for some to believe that.

EllanVannin Thu 24-Jan-19 18:26:54

Oh yes, I'm well over jury age.
It's a thousand pities that 3/4 who act as jury members didn't sit an intelligence test.

Jalima1108 Thu 24-Jan-19 18:28:30

I don't particularly like Salmond but I would hope that if I was on a jury (extremely unlikely) I would be impartial and decide on the evidence presented.

I do hope that, in Scotland, he can be judged fairly as anyone should be.

maryeliza54 Thu 24-Jan-19 18:30:53

No intelligence test for GN either

varian Thu 24-Jan-19 18:38:35

The age limit for people taking part in jury service in Scotland has been removed, meaning anyone aged 65 or over can now sit as a juror in court cases.

The Scottish government said the age limit was "outdated and ageist" and failed to recognise the extra life experience older people could offer.

The ban on over-65s serving as jurors had been in place since 1980.

But changes were made under the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act, which passed last year.

The Scottish government said the move would boost the pool of potential jurors available to Scotland's courts and ease the burden on younger members of the public who may have to juggle family and work commitments.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12149577

EllanVannin Thu 24-Jan-19 18:39:15

What's wrong in me saying I didn't like him anyway ?
It's when those that I dislike commit offences of some sort that I'm not a bit surprised by it.

Harvey Weinstein for instance------he looks what he is ! This is the way I see some people, which is the way I am and has nothing to do with how others perceive these people so why all the backbiting ?

varian Thu 24-Jan-19 18:47:18

I always thought Jimmy Saville was sleazy, but I didn't always get it right. In the 1970 if my children had wanted to get on "Jim i'll fix it" I would have said "NO", but if they had wanted to meet Rolf Harris I might have thought "He's perfectly wholesome and decent so that's OK". Wrong!!!

Baggs Thu 24-Jan-19 19:10:02

One of my teachers used to say "Beware of charmers!" It was in relation to Steerforth in David Copperfield and, I always suspected, to something in her youth.

Kalu Thu 24-Jan-19 19:41:11

Did you ever consider a career in profiling EV ?

PECS Thu 24-Jan-19 21:24:13

Sad no win situation whatever the outcome of the trial.
At one time it was suggested that AS had an alcohol problem. I wonder if he has had mental ill health? Neither alcoholism or mental illness excuses sexual assault but it may go some way to explain the opposing views of some who have met /know him that he is a decent chap and those who obviously feel they have suffered appallingly at his hands.

Anja Thu 24-Jan-19 22:33:22

Innocent until proven.

Jalima1108 Thu 24-Jan-19 23:35:13

I agree that any comments on social media could prejudice the outcome of a trial and I'd hope that GNHQ will keep an eye out and delete anything which could be thought to do that.
Salmond deserves a fair trial and his accusers need to be heard.

Actually, EllanVannin, I am quite surprised to read your comments as you've posted previously about a case of so-called miscarriage of justice.