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The cliff edges nearer because May doesn’t want to split party!

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Anja Mon 11-Feb-19 07:39:59

Theresa May has effectively ruled out Labour’s proposal for a Brexit compromise, stressing her objection to staying inside a customs union. “I am not clear why you believe it would be preferable to seek a say in future EU trade deals rather than the ability to strike our own deals?” she wrote to Jeremy Corbyn. The PM argued that her own Brexit plan “explicitly provides for the benefits of a customs union” in terms of avoiding tariffs, while allowing “development of the UK’s independent trade policy beyond our economic partnership with the EU”.

She accepted a customs union could potentially have delivered her a Commons majority but at the serious risk of splitting her party.

The letter comes amid a growing presumption that while May remains officially committed to putting a revised Brexit plan to MPs as soon as possible, in practice this is unlikely to happen before the end of February. Business leaders have called for quicker action, with the head of the CBI, Carolyn Fairbairn, saying the UK is “in the emergency zone of Brexit now” and the confusion will not just affect jobs and investment, but harm the UK as a long-term business destination.

jura2 Fri 15-Feb-19 19:21:31

I have read a few things today confirming that Trump is asking the UK to drop animal welfare and standards on meat imports and other goods in exchange for a deal- as we expected. Like pink slime will have to be allowed in products made with mince, etc.

MaizieD Fri 15-Feb-19 19:18:42

Eloethan. Any trade bloc, and there are plenty of them, exists primarily to benefit its members.

MaizieD Fri 15-Feb-19 19:14:23

Well, Petra. You must get the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation while I get the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation!

I can't find a thing about it.

Eloethan Fri 15-Feb-19 19:12:42

I wasn't aware of that MaizieD but as you have alerted me to it, I see that there are several articles suggesting that developing countries will suffer when the UK leaves the EU. I need to read more about this but, if that is the case, then, for me at least, it is a reason we should have stayed in the EU. I was aware that poorer countries in the EU have benefited from being part of it and I agreed with that strategy - although I've heard many British people complaining about it.

I am just very wary of any sort of club which exists primarily to benefit its members, sometimes at the expense of non-members. But your post seems to refute this in the case of developing countries and is certainly food for thought.

MaizieD Fri 15-Feb-19 19:10:05

its mild and spring had sprung too boot...

Oh, andy. Ne'er cast a clout 'til May is out... wink

andycameron69 Fri 15-Feb-19 18:59:30

yooo hooo happy friday

all will be fine

we are a great country

out we go...parliament will not agree to Treason May's deal..ever.

so the default is

OUT.. as I voted for in 2016..
it was out or in..

not a deal...................

love ya

andycameron69 Fri 15-Feb-19 18:49:58

It is in law , a barrister said...

it is not possible to remove No deal From the Table.

so if all of Traitor Mayhems [Theresa May] deals fail then it is a default to NO deal ,by law

we must have to leave 29 March, end of.

so I am most excited

her deals will fail as the Backstop is a sneaky way to keep us tied to Evil EU...end of ..

love to Great Britain.. free...

Have a great weekend all, its mild and spring had sprung too boot...

Andy

smile [flower]

petra Fri 15-Feb-19 17:38:59

MaizieD
I hour ago.

MaizieD Fri 15-Feb-19 17:26:10

Is that just breaking, Petra or is it an older item?

I can't find it on today's BBC website.

MaizieD Fri 15-Feb-19 17:21:15

or any sort of "club" that seems to exclude large - and often poorer - parts of the world

So are you saying, Eloethan that you think trade blocs are altogether a Bad Thing? Do you think that there should be an across the board world wide system of tariffs, entirely free movement of goods worldwide and that people should be free to work and live in any country in the world without any conditions on them?

You are, aware, I hope, that the Least Developed Nations (33, I believe) are able to trade with the EU completely tariff free in everything but armaments.

petra Fri 15-Feb-19 17:21:03

From the BBC website.
The uk has struck a deal with the US to preserve £12.8bn of trade after Brexit.
The mutual recognition agreement replicates the current deal between the eu and the US on technical standards for exported goods.
Italy are talking to the uk to set up a bylateral agreement.

jura2 Fri 15-Feb-19 17:12:11

Sorry, he is Dominic- talking common sense

www.facebook.com/najim.uddin.3194/videos/2164743143616564/

jura2 Fri 15-Feb-19 17:10:13

Huge respect for Dominic Grieve

www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/videos/606513309797479/

and how right Hilary Benn is. Hold your nerve- for what??? Nobody knows ...

www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/videos/606513309797479/

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 19:37:24

all will be fine

PECS Thu 14-Feb-19 19:15:12

andy I am happy to think you agree these idiot Tory ministers talk rubbish but they are supposed to be in the know! Over the cliff we go!

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 18:58:08

well they are talking rubbish, and this is nonsense. out we go love

PECS Thu 14-Feb-19 18:34:35

Have several friends and acquaintances in different departments of the Civil Service. They are all having to prepare post-Brexit contingency plans to cope with civil unrest, food & fuel and workforce shortages. These directives are from their ministers/Secretaries of State. They are not allowed to speak about it.

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 17:38:59

a good post, I understand your concerns

Eloethan Thu 14-Feb-19 17:34:05

This is probably the most important moment in our recent history. I agree that the toing and froing, one step forward two steps back, of the present Brexit "negotiations" is very frustrating. However,to say it should be "done and dusted", largely because people are bored with it, seems a bit silly to me.

I am not a huge fan of the EU in its present form - or any sort of "club" that seems to exclude large - and often poorer - parts of the world . Sadly, though, it is difficult for nations to stand alone, particularly when their economic and social infrastuctures have been run down and sold off, such as has happened in the UK.

For me, the decision to vote remain was a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. But at least with the EU we had a degree of political and economic stability and social cohesion. Now we have political chaos and a great deal of bad feeling between people.

On top of that, we really have no idea how the future will be for us outside the EU, but the dire warnings that seem to be coming from every quarter are, in my opinion, very worrying.

Nonnie Thu 14-Feb-19 17:20:17

Sad little person, far from 'awesome', patronising, sexist. Getting some sort of kick from being stupid on here. Some sort of inadequacy. Enough, no more from me.

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 17:17:33

grin

I am a simple person and I believe in honesty and the fact we are a democracy.

I am not rude to anyone, I have very close friends, we do not clash on our opposing political views but enjoy great friendship.

I feel democracy means respecting the result of the majority of voters, was to leave EU.

For me it makes me proud to live in a democracy, where many people in the world do not have this freedom.

Enjoy this warm evening.

petra Thu 14-Feb-19 17:11:31

Andy knows how I feel about him ♥️

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 17:03:05

my life is awesome I have worked hard and am most content and grateful, thank you for asking tipps.

Out of the EU grasp..... fabulous .

all will be better

sunshine

andycameron69 Thu 14-Feb-19 17:01:02

nonnie happy valentines dearie. enjoy each day with happy thoughts.

we are leaving evil EU.. oh and by the way:....
I love it when you take that firm tone with me....

[grins]

crystaltipps Thu 14-Feb-19 16:59:47

You are Dim Andy - You said it. Hope you aren’t too disappointed when your life isn’t magically better.