UK politics and Russian money

Putin's puppets may be controlled in many ways. It is well established that Putin succeeded in influencing the Trump election and the brexit vote. You might say that in spite of the Russian economy being a basket case, Putin is one of the most successful politicians in the world.

The evidence of Russian interference on social media and the internet is proven, but there may well be other means of influencing people who could help de-stabilise the West. Who knows?

Varian

What is a coincidence? The fact they married non British women?

Now it is Trump, Farage and Banks you are lumping together and saying what?

Do you object to Eastern European women because that is a common denominator is it not?

You are accusing them of something is it marrying Eastern European women?

OK, possibly just a coincidence. But didn't Farage leave his Irish wife for a German wife, then leave her for a Russian girlfriend? - another coincidence maybe.

Varian

Well you must have a thought they have done something or you wouldn't have posted as you did.

Or is this another occasion where it is a case of ' Not my words '.

Who knows???

varian

Are you accusing the wives of Banks and Trump of something?

What exactly is it?

Aaron Banks is the son-in-law of a Russian state official and his wife uses the numbers 007 in her email address. The family Range Rover’s numberplate was MI5 SPY.

Mr Banks’s pro-Brexit campaign was launched with funding from a prominent billionaire investor who originally made his fortune in Russia and went on to live on the Isle of Man, which is outside the European Union.

Mr Banks was in effect barred from working as a company director in Gibraltar after an investigation into his financial business there.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/arron-banks-profile-the-brexiteer-his-russian-wife-and-their-family-runabout-mi5-spy-nj00skhjk

Trump's first wife was born in the former Communist Czechoslovakia and his current wife in the Socialist Republic of Slovenia. Is that one way Putin pulls strings?

So would I, POGS, but there isn't one. Unless you care to start one?
In the meantime this will be a start.

I would sign a petition asking the UK government to look into the possibility of Russian Meddling into the last 2 UK General Elections.

There's a petition to sign asking for government to:

'Undertake an independent enquiry into the role of Russia in Brexit'.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/239406/

jura

' Paragon of virtue - not- but Referendums are the norm and the Government always ensures we are well informed, with all the pros and cons. But relevance- none.'
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Indeed Switzerland does hold many Referendums but the Swiss Government cannot enact some Referendum results if the EU says ' No', ' No Cherry Picking '.

As we have disgussed before on various threads.

The ' Paragons of virtue ' comment I made was with regard to the wealth, money , goods in the Swiss Bank Vaults that is hidden . Or am I mistaken?

jura

I was not interested when you told us you could no longer afford a new kitchen because of the pound/euro rate and I am not interested in your personal finances now!

I am asking you a question because you engage in posting making statements about the UK government and what it should do , giving the usual impression the UK government is some sort of fraudulent , uncaring country and I am interested in asking you as a ' dual ' citizen to tell us about your ' other ' country Switzerland .

Could you tell us :-

Has Switzerland adopted the Magnitsky Act? What is Switzerland doing over the Magnitsky Act?

My posts have been the Magnitsky Act and not Brexit.

You have the nerve to tell me to ' take it easy

Calm down and re-read my post, POGS

POGS- what is the relevance to Brexit.

We have no Swiss money at all - only UK pensions in Sterling btw. We have to declare every single penny, our flat in the UK, any savings account - and our respective UK bank accounts have to be registered at our Swiss address. The relevance? None.

Paragon of virtue - not- but Referendums are the norm and the Government always ensures we are well informed, with all the pros and cons. But relevance- none.

jura2 Sun 17-Feb-19 20:39:52

"rubbish lemon- are you really saying there was no lies, no fraud, no foreign/dirty money and interference? "
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Remind us Jura where is your country Switzerland standing over adopting the Magnitsky Act and providing a list ?

Is Switzerland a paragon of virtue when it comes to who's /what /where money is stashed ? .

MaizieD Sun 17-Feb-19 20:31:48

If you don't like it, lemon, you know what to do.
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You have the nerve to tell me to ' take it easy '

Maizie d

Yes I watched it and there are other sources for learning about the Magnitsky Act and I have posted links which give names and why / how the UK government are handling the advancement of the Magnitsky Act.

Some posters may or may not read them but the answers are there.

I suppose it is being seen as a game of timing , time will tell.

rubbish lemon- are you really saying there was no lies, no fraud, no foreign/dirty money and interference?

But yes, as Maizie says ...

I certainly do.....read this thread now and then just for a laugh, and take no further part.?

Another link that ' might ' shed some light to those who will bother to read them.

Talk is easy, POGS. Magnitsky was adopted by UK 2 years ago. We don't have to wait for Brexit to apply it. No results as yet. Are you going to tell me that we are struggling to find any Russians to sanction? Or are we not really trying...

Have you bothered to watch the FA committee video?

If you don't like it, lemon, you know what to do.

Yet another ridiculous thread full of rubbish about the Leave campaign from sore losers of the referendum.

Another link that ' might ' shed some light to those who will bother to read them.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/06/britain-says-brexit-will-open-door-to-tougher-russia-sanctions

I don't think that the Russians really needed to do much to influence the 2017 GE. They were already well on their way to achieving their objective of destabilising the EU when they helped to achieve the Leave result in the referendum. As both the main parties had achieving Brexit as part of their manifestos it didn't really matter to them which on won. Except that they probably see the tories as the best bet for allowing their money laundering operations in the UK to continue unchallenged (see Browder's evidence to the Foreign Affairs Committee)

the UK has adopted it, POGS but hasn't used it. As Bill Browder points out. He says that we're the only country that has adopted the act but not taken any action under its powers.