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Breakaway Labour MP’s

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Anniebach Mon 18-Feb-19 08:35:57

A small number of back benchers will announce they are leaving the party this morning.

Chuka Umunna is one who may be among them.

Mycatisahacker Thu 21-Feb-19 16:19:50

PECS

Anyone can post on here it’s the internet

The Labour Party is supposed to be an organised, decent, fair, legal, robust organised political party.

It was until Corbyn took over.

Seriously you compare the party to mumsnet posters? You don’t think there’s a higher bar?

I suppose that’s the problem.

PECS Thu 21-Feb-19 14:49:11

Funny how people are quick to spot racism in the LP but not on GN!

varian Thu 21-Feb-19 14:38:18

I think they left for more than one reason. Corbyn's support for Tory brexit is a big one when most LP voters, most LP members and most LP MPs want the UK to Remain in the EU.

The takeover by the far left momentum, bullying, racism and anti-semitism and also Corbyn's refusal to support a People's vote as required by party policy, are all good reasons for these eight MPs, and perhaps others, to leave the Labour Party.

Anniebach Thu 21-Feb-19 13:04:36

will the MP’s who left their party because of racism and bullying be judged on this ? I think not

POGS Thu 21-Feb-19 11:53:50

There are '. 18 ' MP's sitting in Parliament who have chosen since the 2017 Election to sit as INDEPENDENT MP's from Labour/Conservative/Lib Dem Parties. They were ALL voted in as MP's on their respective Party ticket. The '. 18.' are not including those MP's who stood as Independents.

The petition states this:-

' In 2017, the 11 MPs who have joined The Independent Group were all elected on their parties’ tickets. Many of their constituents will have cast their ballot for these MPs in a show of support for their Party, its policies and its leadership.

These MPs should call a by-election in their constituencies so the people they represent have a say - either confirming this MP should to continue as an independent or selecting a new Member of Parliament who better represents their community. Please help by signing this petition.'
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Why is the petition only mentioning the 11 who have recently resigned and not All 18 MP' s from Labour/Conservative /Lib Dems who have decided to sit as INDEPENDENT MP's.?

It either a principle or not. Had the petition been on a point of principle not just the 11 recent cases I might have signed it.

PECS Thu 21-Feb-19 10:26:10

There is here! it is tiny because the shire Tories rule the roost here!

Anniebach Thu 21-Feb-19 10:21:33

Momentum has announced it is starting mass canvassing sessions in the 8 constituencies now.

Gone are the days when the Labour Party did the canvassing. But there is no Labour Party now

trisher Thu 21-Feb-19 09:54:18

www.change.org/p/mps-to-call-by-elections-if-they-leave-their-party-end-votetheft?signed=true
Working link

trisher Thu 21-Feb-19 09:53:42

Petition to call by-elections.https://www.change.org/p/mps-to-call-by-elections-if-they-leave-their-party-end-votetheft?signed=true

Anniebach Thu 21-Feb-19 08:44:16

When Chuka said that in 2016 he didn’t know the depths the then Labour Party would sink.

Mycatisahacker Thu 21-Feb-19 08:39:12

Imagine Barry Gardner and Dianne Abbott on a panel!

They should record themselves talking about any topic and sell copies. No one would ever suffer from insomnia again although alternatively you might cut your own throat first. grin

mcem Thu 21-Feb-19 08:37:02

You are aware of the old Chinese curse aren't you, Andy?

andycameron69 Thu 21-Feb-19 08:33:03

it is all very exciting, true

mcem Thu 21-Feb-19 08:24:32

Thought Sarah Woolaston' s comment this morning was relevant - that both LP and Tory parties have moved away from the centre, ruled by Momentum and ERG extremists.
Now in HoC more are declaring as Independent than DUP or Liberals.
Don't we "live in interesting times"?

PECS Thu 21-Feb-19 07:41:32

I can appreciate that on occasions MPs may realise that their party has taken a decision/ direction that they do not personally support or that impacts negatively on their constituents and so may vote against their own party. If however the difference becomes so great between an MPs opinion and the party they were elected to represent they need to discuss this fully with the party leaders to see what common ground, change etc can be achieved . Do we know if this happened?

Day6 Thu 21-Feb-19 00:38:29

The Mirror is reporting that Umunna's views are coming back to bite him.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/chuka-umunnas-previous-views-leaving-14028985

The ardent Corbyn critic is widely seen as the ringleader of the breakaway group which was joined by three former Tory MPs on Wednesday

But back in September 2016 he had a rather different stance on forming new parties

Challenged by Conservative commentator Tim Montgomerie to leave the party and form a new movement, the Streatham MP gave him short shrift

He replied: "Absolutely not, the courageous thing to do is to stay in our party

Hmmm hmm

Day6 Thu 21-Feb-19 00:31:28

Jalima grin

Day6 Thu 21-Feb-19 00:30:33

Galloway is a self serving ego tripper. No time for him at all

I agree PECS he's awful, but I feel the same way about Anna Soubry and Chuka Umunna. I didn't know much about Heidi Allen but listening to her yesterday as she gushed about her 'wonderful constituents' (such a creep!) made me want to throw up!

Jalima1108 Wed 20-Feb-19 23:05:15

So Hatton Back in the Labour Party.
isn't he out again POGS/

This is becoming like the Hokey Cokey

Anniebach Wed 20-Feb-19 22:28:00

Jess Phillips has said if he comes back she is out.

PECS Wed 20-Feb-19 22:11:03

Galloway is a self serving ego tripper. No time for him at all.

Anniebach Wed 20-Feb-19 20:56:33

Corbyn put much effort into getting both close friends back,
That gorgeous George told Arabs to kill British soldiers fits with the peace loving Corbyn

POGS Wed 20-Feb-19 20:51:02

So Hatton Back in the Labour Party.

George Galloway Next.?

I watched his interview on Sky today and he said he has asked for his expulsion to be rescinded.

Actually he was his usual charming self.

news.sky.com/video/george-galloway-labour-anti-semitism-issue-is-all-a-lie-11642728

varian Wed 20-Feb-19 20:13:50

There are as many Glazgow accents as London accents. Not all Londoners sounds the same. BG sounds to me like a fellow Glaswegian.

andycameron69 Wed 20-Feb-19 20:13:46

thank you DAY 6