Breakaway Labour MP’s

Corbyn believes in reaching out to people, he hasn’t spoken to Luciana since 2017. This is reaching out ?

mycat PECS same for me

mycat whilst my list may not match yours I agree with the sentiment that you can often respect people who stick to their principles and who behave in an honourable way & because they do believe it is good for all & not just to feather their own nests/ keep in control etc but still believe they are completely wrong!

I think you may be proved wrong Annie

I still don’t think Tory MP’s will leave their party. They know they can change their leader .

Labour MP’s , the majority do not want Corbyn as leader, can’t change their leader.

Glad I am out of the Momentum Party, good grief ‘comrades’ ?

And I should perhaps say that it is the inequalities in our society, and the impoverishment of the frail and vulnerable that keep me moving left.

When these problems are solved (worldwide too) I will be quite happy to retire from activism and sit around knitting.

I'm 74 and if anything I have moved leftwards.

Only Tony Benn from your list sticks out as an admirable person.

Tony Blair led us into the Iraq War by lying to us. Only half a million dead in Iraq!

comrades
Really. Last heard this language as a student nurse in 1982! Thought it was hilarious then as a teenager.

Most people are far left or even far right as teenagers but you grow up.

You assimilate and empathise and mature. You see both sides of any situation. You stop throwing insults. You stop shouting and being a twat and you start seeing other people’s views and value them for their principals.

Especially is you disagree with them.

I admire.

Frank field
Anna Soubery
Yvette Cooper
Hillary Benn
Nigel farrage (yes)
Jacob Reece mogg
Tom watson
Tony Blaire
Tony Benn
Neil Kinnock
And the late great John Smith

You can admire people you profoundly disagree with as they are true to what they believe and polarisation Is just silly really

Another MP who voted for the Iraq war (and against any investigation of it) and for replacing Trident.

Also voted for tuition fees.

Seven - and now eight - MPs hardly concealing their smirks. They should stand for re-election.

I still support the Labour party and have no time for people like Joan Ryan who I am not at all surprised to see has resigned. She went out of her way, at a crucial time, to send letters to her constituents which undermined Corbyn. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but to do such a thing just before an election was, I think, really out of order.

Joan Ryan Labour MP has resigned from the Labour Party and will join the seven who resigned yesterday .

She said Corbyn isn’t fit to be PM and he is playing games with brexit

True lemon. Seems there are different views on the definition of ‘integrity’

You have confused me again POGS sorry!!
I said that I read a range of media sources & based on a that range of information & perspectives I thought for myself that a left of centre government would be one I would want to support.
Stop looking for arguments where none exist! Chill!

Annie there are so many instances of the cowardly and untrue things that Corbyn says ( in trying to wriggle out of past actions) that how anyone can still think he has principles and is honest as the day is long is quite frankly amazing.

PECS

By reading the right wing Telegraph are you by default according to trisher ' One of the big problems is that so many are prepared to take the word of a right wing press and even echo it. They seem unable to think for themselves.'

Are you unable to ' think for yourself '? I don't think so but that is the problem when others feel they know how/why other people read right wing papers.

Sorry but I am chilling with a bar of Valentine Toblerone & catching up on Cold Feet which I missed yesterday!

Which insults did you see?

Integrity ? The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.

sitting on the floor of a train claiming there were no seats available when there was , this is honest ?

Attending a wreath laying ceremony to honour terrorists but couldn’t remember if he was involved , this is moraly principled?

PECS Tue 19-Feb-19 20:28:19

' If you give a toss POGS I read news from a range of sources..including right wing Telegraph & I still think a left of centre Labour government is best ."
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PECS You are correct , I don't really give a toss about your reading material.

However as you say you read the right wing Telegraph according to Rowantree you by default must therefore have a ' pack mentality and it's very depressing that some of them claimed to be Labour supporters.'

I think that is a bloody ridiculous opinion to hold but there you go.

PECS You lose your rag easily I see.....saying ‘I will not be cowed’ etc ( then a lot of insults) Stop taking political posts
personally it’s just silly.

Oh dear! The Corbyn fan club is displeased.
Too bad.
He has no integrity at all, in fact, that is a joke.....man of principle blah blah.
He is a fairly dim weak vacillating man who has been promoted well above his abilities and is being used and propped up by a radical left wing group who have taken over the Party machinery.
The more we see and know of him the worse it gets.

trisher

trisher Tue 19-Feb-19 20:18:54

That from someone who consistently refuses to look at other sources of information!
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Really, I even look at your links, some of which I find either unreliable or known political propaganda sites.

As you are a poster that often demands proof can you tell me when/where I have refused to look at other sources of information!

If you give a toss POGS I read news from a range of sources..including right wing Telegraph & I still think a left of centre Labour government is best. I guess you would say that you would still support a right of centre Tory government because you read The Morning Star .. we are never going to agree!

Fennel in or under the bed?

You said it, POGS