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Is it fair?

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Jalima1108 Thu 21-Feb-19 14:32:28

Interesting post eazybee - particularly the first paragraph.

POGS Thu 21-Feb-19 14:31:28

Tillybelle

Since the 2017 General Election there are '. 18 ' MP's sitting as INDEPENDENT MP's from the LABOUR/ CONSERVATIVE / LIB DEM Parties. They All won their seats on their respective Party ticket but have since winning either ''Resigned from the Whip or Party' meaning they no longer have to follow the party line and shifted to being INDEPENDENT MP's.

This is their decision to make and I think it is wrong and Parliamentary Procedure should change. The fact there are ''18.' at present and possibly more to come I hope will give this some degree of thought.

eazybee Thu 21-Feb-19 14:00:18

Anna Soubry, Heidi Allen and Sarah Wollaston all voted to hold the Referendum, to trigger Article 50 and to support the EU Withdrawal Bill. They have since been campaigning strenuously to overturn the result of the Referendum.
The ERG is defending the Referendum result and the 2017 manifesto, on which all three campaigned.
Parliament contracted out its sovereignty to the electorate, via the Referendum, on whether or not to leave the EU, therefore MPs have a duty to honour that result.
These three should resign their seats and stand for re-election as Independents.
The Labour MPs have apparently resigned for different reasons, and in a rather more dignified manner, but perhaps they should also stand as Independents.

From a purely personal view, the thought of local elections, yet alone a General Election, fills me with dread.
Two political parties, with two weak leaders, neither of whom will go, and a bunch of dissidents without a common aim.

lemongrove Thu 21-Feb-19 13:23:01

Of course not Gill ! Your MP has not left his own Party, and regardless of his own views ( he happens to support Brexit) his Party supports it, and were elected as supporting it in the last GE, whether Labour or Conservative.

Yes Tilly I think all who leave to stand as ‘Indies’ should face a by-election.

muffinthemoo Thu 21-Feb-19 13:19:34

We have a system of representative democracy, not direct democracy. This sort of thing happens occasionally, and the systemic remedy is to kick out the MP at the next election.

There has always been an argument about whether there should be a mechanism allowing recall elections for MPs, but it's never been that popular an idea.

GillT57 Thu 21-Feb-19 13:11:56

Exactly right Annieb. My bloody MP is a staunch brexiteer, not typical of his constituents, perhaps we should demand that he stands for re-election? By definition, no MP is ever going to represent every wish of everyone of their constituents. This way it frees them up to say what they think, not just trot out the party line as dictated by the whips. It was interesting that Sarah Wollaston cited Boris's vulgar, unprofessional comment of 'F* business' as one of her reasons for quiting.

Urmstongran Thu 21-Feb-19 13:07:53

Well the Tory manifesto was to get us out of the EU and MP’s were elected on that promise. AS is doing everything in her power (along with others) to thwart Brexit.

Ah well, hopefully not long now - 36 days till we’re OUT.
And at either a by election or a GE she’ll be toast!

Anniebach Thu 21-Feb-19 13:01:03

Does a MP have a duty only to those who vote for her/him or for their constituency ?

Smileless2012 Thu 21-Feb-19 12:57:44

No it isn't fair. She should stand for re election.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 21-Feb-19 12:57:08

I have always been of the opinion that our MPs represented their constituents and reflected their views in parliament, but since the 2016 referendum it seems to be every man/woman is in the H of C for themselves.

Tillybelle Thu 21-Feb-19 12:48:33

Anna Soubry has left the Conservative Party. She has been fighting against Brexit for some time. Whereas many would say she is brave and many would agree with her, she remains MP for Broxtowe, serving Constituents who voted for her as a Tory and who voted to Leave the EU. She is working against her Constituents, not serving those who put her in Parliament. Yet she is still there. Is this fair?