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David Lammy/Stacey Dooley

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Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 13:20:57

I agree with him . I don't like the image. I find Children in Need and Comic Relief unbearable to watch ,as it cuts between people in a bath of beans to famine in the developing world.

annodomini Thu 28-Feb-19 19:28:17

Was the BBC intentionally attempting to redress the balance by showing (on the One Show) Sir Lennie Henry in Cape Town, reporting on the improvements made thanks to Red Nose donations?

Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 19:32:57

if he wants to add colour to the fund raising

add colour to what? the colour that is there?

a reasonable request......*"Can't they not film from Africa live? Can we not have African filmmakers, presenters and producers as well as perhaps some British celebrities to get across the issue*

GrannyGravy13 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:02:56

Maybe watch comic relief and see the contributions of “people of colour”?

Joelsnan Thu 28-Feb-19 20:03:51

Lily65
a reasonable request......Can't they not film from Africa live? Can we not have African filmmakers, presenters and producers as well as perhaps some British celebrities to get across the issue
Of course they can Lily and the output can be broadcast across the continent of Africa and the rich of the region can donate the cash and deliver the aid without white interference. Great idea.

Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:10:49

Cool , glad we agree.

Urmstongran Thu 28-Feb-19 20:15:29

Lammy wants to sit at home and debate the issue.
Grow a pair and get yourself over there then man.

lemongrove Thu 28-Feb-19 20:26:50

Joelsnan grin

Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:31:49

lemongrovegrin

petra Thu 28-Feb-19 20:32:27

joelsnan
very good grin

GrannyGravy13 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:37:31

joelsnan- abso-bloody-lutely

petra Thu 28-Feb-19 20:40:07

Try as I might, I can't see this happening wink

Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:43:52

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If the 'celebs' presenting Comic Relief, Sport Relief, or Children in Need were doing it free, or donating whatever they'd have been paid, then perhaps I'd feel differently, but seeing David Beckham posing with a 5-year-old Eithiopean kid and a football, having likely been flown out there first class at the licence payers' expense and either flown back again after the photo op, or put up in a 5* resort, whilst asking people, many of whom are practically destitute themselves after having their benefits slashed and tax credits and free childcare cut, for money is, to me, at best hypocritical. At the height of his career, Dave probably earned more than Ethiopia's entire GDP. Or Gary Barlow, Tory-donating, tax-avoiding multimillionaire, posing with Pudsey, begging people to donate to sick kids, how's about helping sick kids - and adults - Gary by PAYING FUCKING TAX…?! Or Wossy demanding are donate so we can watch him snog Graham Norton (or whatever). How much did Sheeranalbumparty (probably the best hashtag in the history of Twitter) get paid for that photo op…?

Anniebach Thu 28-Feb-19 20:52:21

Hell bells, accept it Lily, Comic Relief is solely to raise money, people watch , enjoy and donate , light entertainment, that’s it. Those taking part do so without a fee.

Viewers want to see celebrities, fact.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 28-Feb-19 20:52:33

Lily65

You miss the point completely- people in Africa benefit from Comic relief and other charities.

Would you rather they stop?

I for one will not stop donating because of your “self grandiosing”

Anniebach Thu 28-Feb-19 20:55:30

And we do not know if those taking part donate or not, heaven help if they flashed a cheque during the programme, cries of ‘ only gave money because he/she could be seen doing so on tv’.

Lily65 Thu 28-Feb-19 21:01:03

I have no idea about self grandiosing/disingenuous comments/twisted views/chip on shoulder, the man made a comment about a cliched image and I agree with what he said.

Urmstongran Thu 28-Feb-19 21:14:29

Cut & paste bit obvious here Lily
Lazy much?

PECS Thu 28-Feb-19 22:50:19

I donunderstand what DL was saying & why. I don't necessarily disagree with all his thinking.
However I think it was hugely ill judged, a few weeks before an enormously successful fundraising event that benefits many communities here in UK & in countries in Africa.
The event raises money because of its tried & tested format of celebs performing live and others showcasing the impact of the.work here & in Africa.
If he had wanted to raise this debate better to have done so in the yeat Comic Relief is not happening and have been more proactive in getting others to be involved.

Eloethan Thu 28-Feb-19 23:03:20

Although a lot of people object to aid, it very often comes with strings attached - trade agreements that offer very good deals to the country/countries supplying aid or prevent the receiving country from entering into other, potentially more favourable, agreements.

I do feel he made some valid points but I think it's rather a shame he chose to pick on Stacey Dooley. There have been plenty of other "celebrities", actors, etc., who have taken part in these TV charity events. It did make me wonder if he singled her out because she is not the conventional TV presenter, having originally got into TV through taking part in a reality programme.

I really don't see why this man's comments are labelled as "racist". He has a view and he has explained why he feels that way. Other people may disagree but he has a right to express his opinion without being called a racist or being accused of "having a chip on his shoulder" (a remark that is often made about non-white people who challenge the status quo).

Maggiemaybe Thu 28-Feb-19 23:47:39

I’m not sure what you mean about Dooley being singled out because of her early career, Eleothan. Her first appearance on TV, as far as I remember, was in Blood, Sweat and T-shirts. It was quite an eye-opener at the time and had a BAFTA nomination as best factual series. I can’t see why Lammy would have picked her out on the basis of this.

Foxyloxy Fri 01-Mar-19 07:56:20

I remember a tale told to me by serving officer in the forces. Way back when Mr Smith was arrested and Rhodesia was being handed over to Robert Mugabe and it was being named Zimbabwe. They watched journalists throw handfuls of sweets in a bin and photographed the little children as they scrambled in there to get them. We then all gasped at the front pages at the poor mites who were starving so needed to forage. We as a Nation interfere too much in other people’s life styles. We should back off, and wait to be asked. India has repeatedly said they don’t require aid from us, but we still keep pushing it. Pakistan is the biggest receiver of aid, because we want them to guard the border with Afghanistan. We have ulterior motives with our donations. I heard a black lady say once when being interviewed about a book she had written that, if we did not keep jumping in to the Third World Countries, they might make more effort for them selves. After my Epistle, I might add I cannot stand Lammy.

Anniebach Fri 01-Mar-19 08:28:38

Prince Harry will be next ?

Anja Fri 01-Mar-19 08:55:08

He should get off his backside and do something himself.

Though perhaps the sight of a fat black man, holding a thin black child might send out the wrong message too.

Foxyloxy Fri 01-Mar-19 09:08:28

Anja, you did make me smile, so true, what a weird world we live in.

Urmstongran Fri 01-Mar-19 09:08:58

I can believe that Foxylady too. Thank you for your insightful post. We live and learn on here which is good.