We BREXIT this month (hopefully) ?

Do any other countries bordering EU have issues? Why is there so little faith in the Irish?

All the countries bordering the EU have hard borders.

And, as I recall, the majority of the Irish were peace loving during the Troubles. Didn't stop them happening, did it?

Do any other countries bordering EU have issues? Why is there so little faith in the Irish?

Unfortunately Joelsnan, as history has repeatedly shown, however peaceable the vast majority of people are it only takes a few...
I'm also unclear on how a non-hard border works in this situation - perhaps you, or someone else, could explain it to me in simple terms.

If we leave the EU with no deal we become a third country and there has to be a border between Ireland, in the EU, and NI, not in the EU. There cannot be an infrastructureless border because of the need for customs and border control. By voting Leave the UK has put itself in this position. However, a hard order breaches the Good Friday agreement. The UK has put itself in this position. Why it should be up to the EU to sort it out is beyond me.

May's 'backstop' is there because the UK asked for it. It has to ensure that the island of Ireland is not put in a postition where a hard border is required between ROI and NI. Once again, this is the UK's choice and May's choice. So up to the UK to sort it. The EU will support its member states. We are, to all intents and purposes, no longer a member state.

The IRA is recruiting, I hear and we've already had the first intimations of trouble.

Why the hell are we doing this?

The issue is more an EU issue than a UK as Brits have repeatedly said no hard border. If EU insist on a hard border, they should then police it.
Plus I think many have a weird imoression of the Irish, champing at the bit, armed to the hilt and just waiting for an excuse for fistycuffs.
I am sure the majority Irish on both sides of the border are peace loving and wouldnt raise to the bait of potential violence because of a border.

This thread is now a bad joke.

And no one mentions Gibraltar any more, either....

21 days.
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So when we leave the EU, apparently preferably with no agreement andycameron69, where are we going to have the hard border between us and Ireland? Between NI and Southern Ireland? Down the Irish Sea? Does the 69 in your name refer to when you were born? Because if it does you have no idea what it was like living in the UK when the conflict was going on in NI. More people were killed during that time than in all the recent terrorist attacks here. But thankfully, you're not worried

I am not worried.
We, the majority voted to leave EU, so no deal, WTO it is. a great future awaits us.

In all this happiness, can I bring up the so far unresolved and very worrying question of the Irish border? Have we all forgotten the horrors of ' The Troubles', and the work which went into the Good Friday agreement ? And please don't vaguely talk about a 'technological' solution, because any realistic one is way in the future if it's at all achievable.

a lovely no deal WTO Brexit is the only real Brexit, out we go, by law.

Will those who do not consider Brexit a mess at the moment tell us exactly what kind of Brexit we are going to get? Seems even the government and businesses don’t know, but obviously those on here who think it’s all marvellous know more.

oh yes could

might may

means nothing

one more day closer...

out

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youtu.be/VsSNMzgsE7U
A bit ‘cheesy’, but worth a view

amp.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/03/07/spooked-by-slowdown-the-ecb-rolls-out-stimulus?__twitter_impression=true

UK economy doing okay, EU faltering

When (if) we do come out on 29th March, I'm afraid that will be far from the end of it! May's "deal" is only a transition document. All the hard work will then start in thrashing out all the details of our full departure in December 2020. There are going to be a lot of hard-working (and rich) lawyers around!

crystaltipps
It is only a mess for those who choose to see it as such. Others see it as an opportunity.
Have you read Macrons call to all his EU comrades on his plans for his Federal Europe?

Like the leaders of the leave campaign - they ran away and refused to face up to the mess they have created.

Actually I really like the idea of no more Brexit talk after we leave (hopefully from when I wake up on 30 March). It’ll be a relief as far as I’m concerned to be honest. A weight off! It’s been a long, convoluted road to get here (and we don’t know that much, even now).

Oh well.
Not long now everyone.
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Ta!

Well put lemon - take a recommend ??

Urmstongran ???

GG13 I agree and plan to do the same, take no interest in any Brexit threads after the end of March, as far as I am concerned, any outraged remainers can moan on for years to come, once we are out, that’s it.Who wants to listen to (or see) angry posts picking fights year in year out.
Two years has been more than enough.