Maddie

.... or even checked at all !!

I don't know what to say really. They'll never get over losing Maddie but the money could maybe be better spent on more recent events now. Twelve years is a long time and the trail of any forensic evidence must have gone cold. It's a very sorry situation for all concerned.

I don't know what to think but don't enquiries publish findings? Is there no accounting for the money?

There's an endless public appetite for unsolved mysteries. Look at us!!

There are those we thought were solved like Anastasia the Tzar's daughter, president Kennedy's assassination.
The moors murders.
Jack the Ripper
Even the princes in the tower..
someone will come up with a new theory to keep us wondering.

The book mentioned elsewhere on this thread is on you tube. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZdDTsFC2g It suggests that Madeleine heard her father talking outside the apartment, got out of bed, climbed on the sofa to open the window, fell and hit her head.

I didn't know this. Maybe it's a better possible conclusion than if she had been taken by a paedophile, which is an unbearable thought.

If that were true, Gonegirl , and she had hit her head and died, why would the parents just not call an ambulance? They are doctors, they know the procedures.

I personally think anyone who thinks the McCanns are responsible directly for the death of their daughter are totally deluded.

I think the same Sparklefizz. It was always going to come out that they had left the children alone so what would be the point in it?

I don't know if I agree with more funding or not. It's such a difficult one. However, some of the parents of other missing children, such as Ben Needham, must be very annoyed about all this.

I find it odd that people are recommending the book written by Goncalo Amaral, who was taken off the McCann case and convicted of perjury and falsifying documents in another case of a missing child, Joana Cipriano. This 8 year old went missing in 2004 within 7 miles of Praia de Luz, and again her body was never found. Amaral was found guilty of covering up for other police officers, accused of torturing and beating Joana's mother into a confession of murder, which she retracted the next day.

The Ben Needham case was never closed, KatyK. Excavations were carried out in Kos just last year after a man (now dead) admitted that he had killed Ben by accident and hidden his body. I'm not sure this was proved conclusively to be the case, but forensic tests were carried out on some items found that were thought to have been Ben's.

Riverwalk
I don't believe the child is alive. After all these years the police, both abroad and from here have no leads. Why throw more money at the investigation?
The parents will have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

Yes Maggie I heard about that but the family still don't know what happened to Ben. I've seen his mum interviewed a few times and, while she has every sympathy with the McCanns, she has never understood why they got so much help/publicity.

I don't know that Ben did get less publicity, KatyK. He's always been in the news as far as I'm aware, and police teams have travelled to Kos many times. Perhaps I've heard more about his case because the family are from my area.

Maybe so Maggie

Maggiemaybe I didn't know that. I'm not recommending the book by a long way. Just thought I would mention the fact that it is, in fact, online after another poster referred to it.

I think the suggestion that this enquiry is carrying on as its potentially the top of a large ghastly iceberg and could lead to the break up of a paedophile ring could be accurate other it's hard to see how do much police time and money could be justified (sad though this case is)

Tip not not of the iceberg.

Gonegirl, I didn’t know about it either. I just saw details when I googled his name, with a view to finding out more about the book.

Hard to judge if you haven’t walked in their shoes.

I personally think anyone who thinks the McCanns are responsible directly for the death of their daughter are totally deluded

I totally agree momb

I personally think anyone who thinks the McCanns are responsible directly for the death of their daughter are totally deluded.
I agree too, momb

And is it only since then that people have started to say that they never left their children out of their sight for a moment?

I think the case that did receive less attention, but may have been reopened now, is that of Katrice Lee, a British child who went missing from a German supermarket.

I too wonder if this is an investigation around a paedophilic ring and bigger than Madeleine herself
It's horrific to think about TwiceAsNice but that may well be.

Due to the many years spent investigating this tragic case and the huge sums of money involved, both by the government and the huge donations which have been given - I do believe there’s more to this than is shared with the public.

I’ve just read that Netflix (who made The Crown) are in the middle of filming a docu-drama about Madeleine McCann’s disappearance. Gerry and Kate McCann want nothing to do with it.

I shall watch it when it comes out.

I think it goes without saying that the McCanns were extremely selfish and neglectful in leaving 3 children under 4 alone in the apartment every single night while they were out eating and drinking, but apart from that there are so many unanswered questions in this case.

Why did Kate refuse to answer a lot of the police questions? Surely she would want to help in any way she could.

Why did she wash the 'cuddle cat' ? What an extraordinary thing to do unless there was a very good reason.

Why did the sniffer dogs detect the smell of death in the apartment and the boot of their hire car ?

Why did the friends' version of events of the evening vary ?

A British journalist said that when they only had the briefest of details of the case they assumed that the parents would have probably been on benefits, living on some rough council estate and the press were going to tear them to shreds.

Once it turned out that they were both doctors, the story was reported sympathetically.

Another thing which amazed me was that Kate McCann fully admitted in her book that the morning before her disappearance, Madeleine had asked her mother where she was the previous evening as she had woken up and cried but her mother didn't come to her.

Is it not likely that if the child had woken the next evening, she might have gone looking for her parents?

Kate though, right from the start had insisted she had been abducted.

Sorry esspee I didn't notice that you'd answered my query to you.

In your first long post you made a number of points which basically, cast the parents in an unfavourable light, or at least their behaviour but then went on to say that the investigation shouldn't continue. Now you say that you think the child is dead so more money 'should be thrown at the investigation'.

Surely if there's a dead child it should be investigated?

So many people quote cuddle cat, cadaver dogs, neglect, etc., but then go on to say the investigation should stopped. I just don't get it.

Whatever your thoughts on the parents' actions it's got nothing to do with continuing to investigate the circumstances.