Put it to the people march - are you going?

love the tension here

urmstongran And for the likes of jura2, MaizieD, varian, crystaltipps et all - guess what? You all keep banging on about ‘Leave lies’ -please point out where I have been “banging on about leaver lies”?
Anyway, when did two wrongs make a right? Surely if lies are in your mind equally distributed it negates both campaigns and an even more of an argument to revisit the question in point now we have more knowledge of the veracity of said arguments.

I see our lorry drivers are going to block motorways if Article 50 is extended.

Certainly will Urmston ??

Those who want out.

most of who?

lemongrove won’t it be refreshing (for most of us) to just move on? Yes, I know ‘to the negotiations - it’s just the beginning’ as Remainers keep reminding us.

But nice, all the same.

If TM can get this through it’ll be good. It’s been a long time coming.

Nope. I can’t jura2 without trawling for links and counter evidence. Which is probably out there somewhere on t’internet.....

Anyway I counter balanced the lies accusation.

Urmstongran...there won’t be any replies, apparently the lies were only on one side (GN myth)

It’s quite ridiculous that we will be leaving the EU very soon, and people are still bemoaning the referendum results of 2016 !
It’s all in the past, there won’t be any going back, we will be leaving.
The sky will not fall in, the sun will shine etc etc.
All these repetitive posts about referendum lies, dodgy money, Farage, Banks, Trump, Putin and so on won’t accomplish anything.

oh dear, I do apologise- my goodness- cooked my OH a nice dinner for his BD instead of immediately responding to Urmstongran. I am still waiting for questions I asked months and months ago - and for which no reply ever came forwards- but, I will apologise for my tardyness (sp?).

I do think you are confusing LIES and PREDICTIONS.

But what about proven foreign interference, and Farage and Banks working with Trump, Putin and alt right groups (well I suppose I could be accused of that, lol) - what about dodgy money, from the same people. What about illegal and hidden targeting of some groups. What about Bank using all his Insurance staff to campaign, undeclared, for months?

Can you give evidence of this happening with the Remain campaign?

No comments yet on my last post? I’ll wait.
I’m renowned for my patience.

Tom Brake MP, Brexit spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, says "Why does Parliament get to change its mind, but not the people? It's double standards of the highest order."

The Liberal Democrats have campaigned for an Exit from Brexit since the day after the 2016 Referendum. This motion reaffirms our policy of a public vote between the Governments deal and remaining in the European Union.

This motion also calls on the Government to:

- revoke Article 50 if no deal is agreed a week before we are due to leave the European Union.
- remove the deadline for settled status applications, -provide additional support to those who need it.
- create an emergency Brexit Support Fund of at least £7.5 billion to mitigate job losses caused by Brexit uncertainty.
- ensure the UK’s participation in the 2019 European Parliamentary Elections, if any extension of Article 50 means that the UK is still a member of the EU at the time of the election.

'interested ' not 'understanding' - sorry.

Any ideas?

Lies at referendum time? Oh no ?

Who would have thought it? Aren’t all politicians and campaigners squeaky clean? We’d have to be daft to believe that!

And for the likes of jura2, MaizieD, varian, crystaltipps et all - guess what? You all keep banging on about ‘Leave lies’ ..... well here are a few of the porkies ‘Remain’ tried to scare us with:

REMEMBER THESE?

You told us that there would be an emergency budget.

“Within days of the poll, the idea was dropped.

“You told us that we would be £4,300 worse off per family, a figure that no one now tries to defend.

“You told us that our stock market would collapse. In fact, British stocks are, at the time of writing, the best performing in Europe.”

Remainers also brought the German finance minister over to London to warn that the UK would be “treated like any third country” during the referendum campaign.

“Now that same minister says that a special status will be found that protects the close commercial relationship between the UK and Germany, and that he only used that phrase at George Osborne’s specific request.”

Please desist from pretending the lies were all one sided. It’s wearisome keep reading the same links and verbose tracts.

I am truly understanding- are some of you

a) denying that Leave Campaign lied massively, and that the fraud, foreign interference, illgal hidden targetting and use of dodgy money happened

or

b) accept that it did happen but that it is irrelevant in a democracy?

Lockey pointed out that this margin was much smaller than the 4% margin of victory during the EU referendum, which he said was now being discredited.

Mr Lockey is disingenuous. We're not discrediting the 4% margin of victory; though it's held by scientists to be statistically negligible. We're objecting to a referendum won by corruption, illegality and lies. A real subversion of democracy.

can i mince along in my kitten heels

hope so

Look at the video and see who is shouting "we're going to London to stop the brexit betrayal" - not one of the poor Sunderland "left-behinds" but none other than multimillionaire member of the brexit elite, Richard Tice.

I wonder if he intends to walk all the way?

Very interesting- this just now in the Graun:

A row soon broke out with counter-protesters who turned up carrying red love hearts with messages including “we love workers’ rights” and “we love to have a say”. One set off blue and yellow flares , the colours of the EU, as protesters chanted “exit Brexit”.

Barry Lockey, who arrived in Sunderland carrying a flag with the message “Get Britain out: Time to leave the EU”, said that the event was about supporting democracy. “The democracy in the parliament building has been spot on. They’ve got their no-deal taken off the table by four votes,” he said.

Lockey pointed out that this margin was much smaller than the 4% margin of victory during the EU referendum, which he said was now being discredited. “I’m sorry, but that really riles me. And they’re not going to get away with it.”

100s of 1000s will march peacefully. In the meantime, not even 200 turn up for Farage- and one of them has thumped a woman who was peacefully demonstrating- just like another assaulted a woman outside Westminster the other day.

Says it all. And Farage won't even go on the rest of the march - says he has to go and do his job as MEP in Brussels - bizarre as he has never bothered before.

I was determined to go on the march on 23rd- but my duty is elsewhere at the moment- so glad many friends have agreed to put my name on their banners- and I shall be with them all the way in spirit xxx

If my anxiety relapse will allow me, I'll be there. We planned our short break in Shropshire to fit in with the march.

It's all such a blimmin mess and in the meantime, important issues aren't being dealt with properly. Or at all.
Should never have happened.

An updated list of transport to the march, courtesy of Mumsnet.

"I am bound to have left some out, the list is getting so long. Please do check the website: www.peoples-vote.uk/march_transport"

Ashford
Aviemore
Axminster
Bala
Banbury
Barnsley
Barnstaple
Bath
Berkhamstead
Beverley
bicester
Bidford
Birmingham
Blandford Forum
Bournemouth
Bournemouth hospital
Bridgend
Brighton
Bromsgrove
Buckingham
Bury St Edmunds
Buxton
Cambridge
Cantebury
Cardiff
Cardiff Univeristy
Cheltenham
Cheltenham
Chester
Chesterfield
Chirk
Cirencester
Crewe
Cross Hands
Darlington
Devizes
didcot
Durham
Eastbourne
Edinburgh
Ewlowe
Exeter
Exmouth
Frome
Gloucester
Harrogate
Hereford
Honiton
Huddersfield
Inverness
Ipswich
Kendal
Kennilworth
Kidderminster
Kingsbridge
Lancaster
Ledbury
Leeds
Leek
Leeming Bar
Lichfield
Lincoln
Liverpool
Llandudno
Macclesfield
Malvern Link
Manchester
Marlborough
Minehead
Newcastle Under Lyme
Newport
Newton Abbott
Norwich
Nottingham
Okehampton
Omskirk
Oxford
Penrith
Penzance
Penzance
Peterborough
Plymouth
Poole
Pwllheli
Redruth
Ringwood
Ripon
Rugely
Salisbury
Saxmundham
Seahaven
Sheffield
Shepton Mallet
Shrewsbury
Sidmouth
Snitterfield
Southport
St Albans
St Asaph
St Austell
St Blazey
Stafford
Stockport
Stoke on Trent
Stone
Stratford
Stroud
Sunderland
Swansea
Swindon
Thornbury
Tisbury
Tiverton
Torrington
Totnes
Trowsfynnydd
Truro
Truro
Wallingford
Warwick Parkway
Wells
Weymouth
Williton
Wincanton
Winchester
Wirral
Witney
Woodbridge
Worcester
Wrexham
York

We've also found:

Patrick Stewart is to pay for a Yorkshire coach smile

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/sir-patrick-stewart-is-paying-to-bus-protesters-from-yorkshire-to-an-anti-brexit-march-in-london-1-9649881

People are getting the train from Milton Keynes: www.facebook.com/events/332496534140285/

Two coaches, both setting off from Taunton. One stopping at Yeovil and Wincanton, and the other stopping in Wells, Shepton Mallet and Frome (Thanks @Brexitisshit )
www.somersetloveseurope.org.uk/index.php/put-it-to-the-people-march-23rd-march/

Thornberry and Yate: (thank you mystery Mner)
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/thornbury-and-yate-coach-for-peoples-vote-march-on-23-march-2019-tickets-57615504525

Bradford on Avon and Corsham(
Thanks to the mner who pmed me with this):
bathforeurope.com/

Inverness, Perth, Lockerbie, Gretna and for general travel from Scotland
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coaches-from-scotland-to-peoples-vote-march-london-23-march-tickets-57363261058

Camarthenshire (Thanks @Slurpy )
www.carmarthenshirelibdems.wales/put_it_to_the_people

Somerset: (thanks @KennDodd )
www.tickettailor.com/events/somersetloveseurope/239226?fbclid=IwAR3GsVyLHUL9Oyti6bS3ur1-9KD5M6GAfJUns4xA8FBMdL0ZV15Fu4VNHLQ

Devon: (thanks @KennDodd )
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coaches-to-london-saturday-230319-put-it-to-the-people-march-tickets-56895949316?utm-medium=discovery&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&aff=esfb&utm-source=fb&utm-term=listing&fbclid=IwAR1YmXEbRT6fZ0_4kEPh8WYBhRfNEqX9Tkrq5b1g7IYBmpqbmxr1PCA45KE

Penrith/Kendal/Lancaster Preston:
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coach-penrithkendallancaster-preston-to-pv-march-london-23rd-march-tickets-56829229756

Glasgow Loves EU have a coach now smile
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/coaches-from-scotland-to-peoples-vote-march-london-23-march-tickets-57363261058?fbclid=IwAR1otLZ-f6boEvgrAQsHBgdnzP_umrVVnQTUY0YdQ_JuoT_ej0J_knIKwYU

Bristol and Bath. there is a very cool Train service: (thanks @twofingerstoeverything )
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/bristol-and-bath-for-europe-train-to-london-march-tickets-57096658643?fbclid=IwAR3h4C3IN-y5zjI2ZN4EJ6RLhODpMEirFuE7Mms1XJuxbSinTKPxmK5SSFs

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3510056-Put-it-to-the-People-March-23rd-March?pg=13

Miepl; don't worry. We're not just marching just for ourselves but for everyone who wants to be there but can't. My friend puts my name on her flag when I can't get to London, although, thankfully, this time I can.

No, I haven't forgotten that, Jalima but how is it relevant to the poll results that varian posted?
They are obviously what is termed 'flip-flopping'.

Changing their minds - who knows if they could change them again.

Maizie is indeed very very well informed- facts, from the experts with massive experience.