Good News about Brexit! ✅

16 million people can be wrong too varian

When Natzi Germany is brought into the equation that's when you know there is desperation to prove a point.

Hence the sigh.

There were 17 million people, some of them good people in Germany in 1933 who were fooled into voting for Hitler because they'd been told it was for the good of their country and they believed the propagandist. 17 million people can be wrong.

varian that is utter rubbish.

crystaltipps that is very good news and I hope we carry this forward in the UK too.
I do hope this is not too little, too late - we can do our best but other countries around the world have to take action as well.

Crystaltips, that is good news indeed. Tbh I think climate change and pollution is a far greater threat to our wellbeing than brexit can ever be.

The position of the German people in 1933 was diametrically different to our position in 2016. Germany had lost a devastating world war,started in the main by the Kaiser and his generals. They had been subjected to punitive reparation together with the world wide stock market crash, with people literally starving in the streets. Anyone who both promised and delivered a way out of this crippling situation would undoubtedly have had popular backing. No one in 1933 could possibly been able to foresee the horrors of the Nazi regime,hence the admiration Hitler commanded both in Germany and other countries including the UK.

Some good EU news- The European parliament has voted to ban single-use plastic cutlery, cotton buds, straws and stirrers as part of a sweeping law against plastic waste that despoils beaches and pollutes oceans.
The vote by MEPs paves the way for a ban on single-use plastics to come into force by 2021 in all EU member states.

There is a strong parallel between 1933 in Germany and 2016 in the UK. The rise of right wing populism, strong negative propaganda directed against minority group, then Jews, homosexuals and gypsies, more recently immigrants and the EU so-called Eurocrats who can conveniently be blamed for everything.

In 1930s Germany the media consisted mostly of newspapers, radio and word of mouth, which included brainwashing children to betray their parents. That is how the Nazis gained power and grew their power.

We now have to be even more vigilant as we have much more powerful media - newspapers owned by foreign billionaires and tax exiles with their own self-serving agenda, very biased tv and radio, and all sorts of poison on the internet.

This all needs to be addressed so we can allow people to question the lies.

Now that T May has said that she will step down after the Brexit deal is passed ( if it is) it does have a chance now at least, light at the end of the very long tunnel.

It's my party and I'll cry if I want to ?

Day6 , as you and I both know and others choose to ignore, the slogan on the bus was, a) only a suggestion, and b) would only come into operation AFTER we left the EU! something that hasn't happened yet, and at the present rate of progress due to our duplicitous MP's probably never will!
I don't think you can possibly equate voting in Germany in 1933 with the referendum in 2016! Slightly different circumstances!!!!!

The party's over for TM

That's how I felt hence the sigh.

I'm not sure whether to interpret the above posts as smugness or desperation. Either way it does the posters no favours.

varian

Here are some flowers for you
Unreal, just like remainers expectations.

That was to Varian by the way

Sigh

Give up varian
Boring repetition.

The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

The party's over
The candles flicker and dim
You danced and dreamed through the night
It seemed to be right just being with him (er...Boris...JC...?)
Now you must wake up, all dreams must end
Take off your makeup, the party's over
It's all over, my friend.

Now that the party's over
You'd better take out your glass eye
Put your false teeth in water
Cork up your bottle of dye
Put your false leg in the corner
Hang up your hair on the wall
All that is left can go bye-byes
After the ball.

It's finito.
We're on the last leg of the journey so you can give up your tireless tirades against the tide.
I admire your tenacity but not your views.

It is quite possible for 17 million voters to be wrong. 17 million German voters were wrong in 1933.

Joelsnan
Oh I totally agree......



.....with the first sentence in your comment.

Well said Day6 take a recommend that woman ??

Meanwhile, we all await the results of this evening’s indicative votes .... Parliament will be having an indicative vote on absolutely everything. Except the one thing the country voted for. That’s no longer on offer!!

Day6
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It's amazing isn't it that 17.4 million voters were victims of "foreign interference and voter manipulation"

Indeed Smileless

Oh and don't forget the bus. It was that there bus wot swung it for us thickos.... <cough>

I have never known a group of people so keen to dismiss a result because it didn't go their way and then to smear the winning group with all sorts of vile slurs to enhance their own position.

My anger now is directed at Parliament - not TM, but Parliament, and MPs of all parties who seem hell-bent on ignoring the referendum and keeping us in the EU.

Every (angry) conversation I overhear now tends to be directed at MPs who are doing their best to thwart Brexit. It illustrates the gap between the elites who think they know what's best for us, and the choices of the electorate.

The good news is that the EU is not prepared to put up with anymore of this game playing. Their take it or leave it deal and time frames mean Parliament cannot prevaricate any longer.

I wouldn't put it past certain MPs to try however, but I remain optimistic (Good news Urmston ) that these despicable delaying strategies are running out of steam.

Gabriella54
Don't you just get sick of the snidey comments from those who have nothing better to add to the discussions.
At least those who provide links to sustantiate their comments to those who try and dismiss have actual evidence to support their claims rather than the sheeple scaremongering of cliff edges and crashes.

It's amazing isn't it that 17.4 million voters were victims of "foreign interference and voter manipulation".

The only "total disregard" I'm aware of is the total disregard by remainers of those who voted by a majority to leave the EU.

Does anyone remember the leaflet that we all received, telling us the referendum was a once in a generation opportunity and that the result would be upheld?