Good News about Brexit! ✅

There’s some truly disgusting posts on other forums aimed at leave voters.
Example;
‘The longer brexit is delayed, more leavers will die of disappointment - sounds good to me’
And, in reply to leavers saying they’ll never vote again;
‘Good! because you’re too thick to vote!’

All allowed to stand.

Remainers really aren’t doing themselves any favours are they.

A leap into the unknown but don’t worry kids- it’ll be fine because we are British and won the war. We’ve got great negotiators, and a marvellous Parliament. We don’t make anything anyone wants to buy so don’t need to trade through the EU. It’ll be marvellous doing everything the same and paying twice for it, and yes there’s that £350m a week for the NHS.

Thanks petra. Interesting times!

Ok so you don’t know what will happen- might be better, might be worse - great to have a plan! Freedom to have fewer freedoms. Sounds a bit of a gamble with millions of people’s lives who didn’t vote for this sh*tshow. Years of political chaos so a few rich people can avoid a few regulations and make up their own.

Its very worrying how Brits are being misinformed, its time there was some reality and transparency

Gmum - welcome.

OK - list the reality then - stuff you can GUARANTEE will happen when we leave the EU? You know as much as we do, as anybody does, because we haven't done it yet. I am not denying there will be teething problems but the UK is unlikely to flounder.

Remainers seem to think they are a knowing group, and it's as though they need to teach everybody else about the fate which will befall the UK when Brussels no longer has a say in the way we live - regarding our laws, working practices, trading deals, border controls, commerce, bills of rights etc.

You say you know, as Remainers, and then the falling-into-the-abyss rant follows.

It's not going to be awful. It's not even going to be that different. We are not so stupid that we cannot anticipate alternative ways of doing things (like trading) and adjust. We will still be Europeans and travel throughout the continent if we choose.

I see Brexit as a freedom we will benefit from, as do millions of others.

Is anyone watching what's happening in Holland RE their local election results?
It doesn't bode well for the European elections.

History will show that many malign forces were behind this mess. Disaster capitalists, Cambridge Analytica, Steve Bannon, foreign and tax exile newspaper proprietors, and of course, Vladimir Putin.

I am a person who voted to remain and still would wish to see the UK retain European Union membership. However, within the work our company does we have in the last three months found many positives in the dilemma this country has found itself in.

To take our business first, we have taken on in the last few months much extra work in setting up safety regimes in warehouses were companies have planned to create additional storage capacity to overcome problems in JIT transport services should that come about.

That has created much extra work for our staff and many long hours including weekend working has been required to carry out all that has been needed. We did consult with all the staff prior to taking on much of that work on top of our regular contractual obligations, but everyone agreed that the extra work should be taken in.

All the staff responded magnificently and last Friday as it was nearing the end of our fiscal quarter they were all informed of the bonuses they will receive for all they have done. Needless to say, everyone has been "over the moon", with today (25/03/19) being the happiest Monday morning I have ever known in the company.

Along with the above, we have been working alongside companies that been required to share those extra storage facilities with other organisations on the grounds of cost and/or the shortage of suitable facilities in their areas. In that, we have been amazed at how the staff of those different companies have worked together to the benefit of all to get those warehouses operational, which often has proved to be a complex process.

In the above, managers, supervisors, HR staff and warehouse operatives from different organisations have all to often "pulled together" to get those many problems overcome and people trained, many times leaving us thinking "what an effort."

It has often been stated that the British are at their best when its population's backs are pushed against the wall. That in my experience is exactly what has happened and is still happening. The Brexit crisis with all its uncertainty has in many workplaces brought people together for the sake of their future employment and to try to ensure the company they work for has a future.

Great Stuff, and I hope our experiences bring some light amongst all the gloom.

I am not desperate and history will show race and the whipping up of division was partly behind this mess.

Its not a good idea to brexit, the last two years have been chaos, but if that is the will of the people, well lets say only 17 million of them. It will be interesting to see what happens, considering there will be a 7 year wait to trade with WTO. Uk will not be free to make its own decisions as there will be other laws to abide by. Talking to a brexiteer about the changes there will be once the UK leaves, they were not very clued up, in fact had no idea of the repercussions, except that they expected to queue at calais. Its very worrying how Brits are being misinformed, its time there was some reality and transparency. I say bring it on, and see what happens, so glad I live in europe, can watch from my lovely home in the sun. good luck

Well said Greta. These leavers need to be reminded that what they call the "will of the people" (2016) is actually the will of Vladimir Putin.

Ooooh Lily65 that was a very nasty post.

You might want that - none of my Leave voting friends do. You are waving around the racism card in Remainer desperation. Not nice.

Instead of talking to 'friends' try reading some quality European papers. The French Figaro had this to say:

"The only group to benefit from GB leaving the EU will be the Russians. It's part of Putin's plan to split us up."

Whose side do you want to be on?

As for fraud and deception?! Project Fear was hardly truthful, and certainly enacted to 'frighten' people into voting remain

Indeed, Jabberwok

Not only that, the Project Fear predictions were seen for the lies they were. Even the (Remainer) Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, got all his gloomy, doom-laden financial predictions wrong!!!

Shameful Remainer behaviour!

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Their have been more anti- EU politicians elected to European Parliaments then ever before. They think we are doing the correct thing and that others will swiftly follow

GrannyGravy our French friends, 15 of them, said exactly the same thing this weekend. They KNOW there is real unrest in France and EU membership is universally unpopular and not wanted in the small town where they live. There are no 'Remain' factions there!

Is it all a matter of belief? Uk productivity has slumped ( it was always pretty low), if you want to believe that things will actually be better after we shoot ourselves in the foot and leave the biggest single market in the world, and leave with no plan and no one in control - just optimism with no basis other than " things will be wonderful" you have great faith in the useless bunch leading us through this tortuous process. You do realise that Brexit is just the beginning of years of negotiation and reinventing the wheel? Oh no, the NHS will have loads of dosh and suddenly we'll all be living in bliss. Well thats OK then.

I am sorry to say that the rest of the world is laughing at the UK and no wonder

They're not though, are they? Our politics is of little interest to the man in the street in other countries. They may be thinking 'what a mess' but as I have said before, the Remain voters say the world is laughing at the UK. What they mean is, it's not gone our way, so we will ridicule the leave vote and voters by saying this.

Whoops, and here you go yet again with your wishful thinking varian. It's almost as if you are eagerly awaiting the demise of the UK.

We were a well respected country with a great history, an important member country of the EU, the world's largest and most successful trading block and we are threatening to throw all that away

You cannot help yourself, can you?
The day after we leave the EU we will still be these things.

Ye Gods. We are leaving the EU, a political/trading group, not dying, not fading away (as you'd like us to.)

I imagine many more member states will experience unrest until they too decide to get out of the EU. We are the envy of our friends in France. Imagine that.

suzied
Move then if you believe that is the best for you.
We need doers not moaners..

We'll still be buying the produce, just be paying more for it.

Can do attitude? Examples? Getting up and moving out of the UK more like. Lowest productivity in Europe anyone?

To make my post above clearer - Juncker advised intransigence.

The local news media informed me that the fruit growers are very concerned about export of their products to the UK post Brexit.
The EU leaders had better be less intransigent, as advised by Juncker, then!
We all need the best deal - not just for us but for European producers too.

Lily65
Feel free to splat if you want to. Fortunately most of UK have an optimistic and can do attitude and will fly ?

More like jump and splat on the concrete below.