Is there any Tory you would TRUST to take over from Mrs May?

Put money on Jeremy Hunt before the odds come in any more.

Who can forget the leadership election when the two Milliband brothers were candidates, David was in the lead then the union vote went to Ed , if it had just been members and MP’S votes David would have been leader .

I think the Tory system allows for some really interesting shenanigans in terms of getting down to the final two. MPs know who will appeal to the membership and this leads to some interesting manoeuvres in ensuring who ends up in the final two or more importantly doesn’t.

The Tory MP’s vote and two candidates then face the membership vote.

The Labour Party all members and Unions vote regardless of how many candidates.

Wasn't that Louise Mensch jalima?
I thought the choice of Tory party leader was up to MPs & members didn't have a say.

Gransnet is just a forum we have no say unless we are paid up Conservative members who becomes their Leader
Do party members have much say? It comes down to a choice of two, doesn't it?

Varian's posts are always interesting, well thought out and intelligent. You may not agree with her Nice? but there is no need to be so rude and unpleasant.

cockstrutting oh purleeze. You mean my accurate summing up of BJ?

I just typed out an extremely interesting, erudite and perspicacious post about this, hit an errant key and got blue dots all over my post!
What happened?

Anyway, thanks for the link Anja and I did not realise that Louise Bagshawe is still an MP - isn't she the author of --rather silly--novels?

nicenanny how bitter and twisted are you? Keep to the point of the discussion or keep your nasty and irrelevant comments to yourself.

He had two votes in his pocket - one Brexit and one Remain.
dragonfly I did read that he spent a long weekend agonising over which stance to take - but the, so did many of us which makes me think that many of us gave it a great deal of thought! However, our views only counted come the referendum, his probably influenced many.

Always have thought that the pseudonym "nicenanny" was a real misnomer!!

Money is already being donated to potential leadership contenders. Owner of JCB has given Boris two amounts of £10,000 and £15,000 this year and he has been given almost £140,000 in money or 'other support' since late last year. He's had £36,000 from the owner of a NY investment business.

Dominic Raab has been given more than £50,000 this month alone.

The MPs' interests show that the Conservatives have accepted money from Lubov Chernukhin, wife of the Putin's former deputy finance minster, who has given more than £600,000 to the Tories in recent years.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/21/jcb-backs-boris-johnson-leadership-conservatives-gift

maryeliza54
Your cockstrutting around the threads is so amusing

Thank you for your support maryliza54.

Nicenanny (strange name for someone who does not come across as very nice) accuses me of being " bitter, mean and nasty you are just because Leave won the referendum "

No I am not any of these things. I do know that some good people were fooled into voting leave by the lies, foreign influence and cheating of the leave campaign, and it is possible that the poster who chooses to call herself Nicenanny may be one of them, but I continue to try to inform them about the facts.

I have little interest in who will succeed Theresa May as Tory leader, but I think it is worth pointing out that while some of the other contenders may be unsuitable in various ways, Boris Johnson is a proven liar and that is an established fact.

I am not a member of the Conservative party and therefore have no say in the matter, but I think it is possible that some GNetters are party members and will have a say and so I think they should be informed about Boris Johnson's poor record which is a reflection on his character.

Tough question. Rory Stewart’s the only one I can think of.

And we don’t need your faux sympathy nor your pathetic attempts at cod psychology - right?

You lighten up if you want but butt out of telling others to do the same nice - some of us actually understand how serious things are and that there is nothing to lighten up about.

nice I know varian doesn’t need me to speak for her but are you unable to accept that her ( and my) comments about BJ are nothing to do with losing the referendum but everything to do with the fact that he is a steaming pile of dogshit on the soles of humanity that his supporters like you would wish to be trodden into the living rooms of the nation

Gransnet is just a forum we have no say unless we are paid up Conservative members who becomes their Leader think some posters need to lighten up after all GN is just a grannys forum.

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Boris Johnson is known to have been sacked at least twice for lying.

He was sacked by The Times when he was their correspondent in Brussels and was found to have made up negative stories about the European Union. He was subsequently sacked from the government by John Major for more proven lies.

How stupid, uninformed or morally deficient would you have to be to accept a man like him as Prime Minister?

Maryeliza you have summed up Boris J perfectly. The man is a cheat and a liar (sorry andy, that word again). Once you have cheated on and publicly humiliated your wife and children the rest, such as the general public or electorate is easy. He is a vile individual.

Amber Rudd ? She who ignored the Windrush debacle ??

None of them as far as I'm concerned.

Buffoon doesn’t come close dragon