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“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

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NotSpaghetti Thu 21-Mar-19 08:52:48

The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. Well now there is a petition demonstrating the strength of public support for revoking article 50!

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Ginny42 Fri 22-Mar-19 20:11:12

Interesting figures if you look at the map. Some significant percentages beginning to emerge.

Raab, 9.21% of 111,139 constituents - 10,236 votes

Teresa May, 7.55% of 103,937 - 7844

Jeremy Hunt, 9.95% of 104,099 - 9937

John Redwood, 7.94% of 105,240 - 8,352

Zac Goldsmith, 13.66% of 121,736 - 16,638

Oxford West, 13.13% of 108,389 - 14, 229

Bristol West, 17.73% of 130,187 - 23,087

At what point do the powers that be take note of the feeling out there?

Urmstongran Fri 22-Mar-19 19:52:20

Sorry. I misunderstood. I didn’t think you’d realised!!

Urmstongran Fri 22-Mar-19 19:51:22

Oh bless you icanhandthemback only you’ve just shot yourself in the foot! The poster who advised ‘stop pearl clutching’ is an ardent Remainer.

Ouch.

icanhandthemback Fri 22-Mar-19 19:35:05

So do stop pearl clutching please...

^ have found that the Remainers are generally polite and genial and the Leavers are usually belligerent and have little factual knowledge.^

Mmm, and this is why you can't have a debate. If you are a Leaver you are far more likely to be subject to abuse than if you are a Remainer but the Leavers are always blamed. Leavers don't tend to bleat about Remainers having little knowledge, being thick, etc. Remainers do it all the time.

As a Leaver, I respect people's points of view, don't think the EU is the most heinous thing to ever have existed but I do think it has major faults. I also think that it is cumbersome, expensive and a gravy train. I also think that the original idea was a fantastic one and that the move to a Federal Bureaucracy is the thing that has made me want to step backwards. I don't think that makes me thick, lacking knowledge, racist, etc. I just think I have a different point of view to a Remainer and the way forward is a different one to the one they want. I have listened respectfully to their arguments but the moment I refute anything even in a pleasant, I am likely to get abuse. Sadly, the people I have always thought were tolerant have turned out the be the most intolerant of other people's points of view.
I think that the fiasco we have seen might be the best thing to happen to British Politics; hopefully we will learn from this and move to put things right.
There might be a huge Remain march, a large numbers of people signing the petition but I hate to think what will happen if those who voted Leave are ignored when there was a democratic vote. No First Past the Post vote, just a simple Leave/Remain vote. That was Democracy.

Urmstongran Fri 22-Mar-19 19:10:35

A comment about the petition on the Graun letters page today and I'm outraged to discover that the Parliamentary Petitions website allows an individual to vote as many times as they have email addresses.

I’ve just voted again using a different email address and my business postcode, and using my phone on both occasions, so they clearly don't check the computer's IP address. How disappointing. No wonder the PM says she will ignore it. I don't think I'll be bothering to sign any further parliamentary petitions until it's better managed.”

andycameron69 Fri 22-Mar-19 18:29:00

I am enjoying it here so much, out we go..........faaaaaaaaaaab

party needed

gringringrin

Urmstongran Fri 22-Mar-19 18:15:38

There is little hope of the petition having a material impact on Brexit according to the experts.

Just ask Professor Alex de Ruyter, Director of the Centre for Brexit Studies at Birmingham City University. “It could reasonably be argued that the 2016 referendum result should not be binding and that people are entitled to change their minds and vote in another referendum”, he said.

"However, revoking Article 50 remains the nuclear option for Parliament and it would need a far stronger showing of support than one million signatures in a petition. Twenty million signatures would be more on the mark.

"Failing this, such an action could be more easily seized upon to suggest that the "will of the people" was being subverted.

Hardly a ringing endorsement of Remainer claims that this petition could allow them to bypass a referendum and overturn Brexit in one fell sweep. Clearly those who want to reverse the referendum result via online activism have got their work cut out for them.

Only 15m more signatures to go...

mumofmadboys Fri 22-Mar-19 18:08:47

You are a wind up merchant Andy

andycameron69 Fri 22-Mar-19 18:02:30

what a giggle I love it here. party time

none of these silly votes actually mean anything.. so don't worry we are leaving

party time

I might open a lambrusco and go mad ..!!!!!!!!!

MaizieD Fri 22-Mar-19 18:00:11

Analysis of the petition's underlying data. For those who think it's being fiddled...

britorbot.org/2019/03/22/revoke-article-50-petition/

andycameron69 Fri 22-Mar-19 17:56:09

ooooh eeer petitions mean nothing , so I am not interested, they achieve nada !!!!!!

Caledonai14 Fri 22-Mar-19 17:51:17

Over 3.5 million now. Keep going.

Cindersdad Fri 22-Mar-19 17:30:10

At the last count over 3.4 million. The "will of the people" is flexing its opinion. Just tell your remainer friends all about it.

mcem Fri 22-Mar-19 17:10:36

So after TM repeats 108 times that we will leave on 29 March, we won't.
Tusk and Juncker and co really do seem to be throwing us a lifeline.
Thank you EU!

Let's hope now that the next step is the series of indicative votes to set us on the path to a definitive referendum and a majority for Remain.

paddyann Fri 22-Mar-19 16:45:21

My feelings exactly Caledonai14 THIS country hasn't voted for a majority of tories since the mid 1950's but we get them whether we want them or not ,we are ingored or treated abominably in WM and the folk who jeer at our elected MP's get away with it .Would any SNP MP have got off if he called a fellow MP a piece of shit ?Of course Mr Speaker says he "didn't hear the insult ..but they heard someone call May a stupid woman and there was an outcry!! Even though its true.Now we've got a Brexit we dont want and are supposed to take it on the chin that our economy..the best performing in the UK ...will be decimated by it .It beggars belief and it shows how the rest of the "united* kingdom really thinks of us ...we're the muck beneath their shoes .Why ANY Scot is willing to accept this treatment is beyond me .

Caledonai14 Fri 22-Mar-19 16:02:16

In the confirmation process you have to put the postcode to which this email address is attached. I don't know what happens if somebody tries to use multiple email addresses, but I should think that rules out some forms of interference from abroad.

Those who claim there are cheats on here do not understand the deep desire by some of us to make a reasonable, legal protest at what we have already lost and are about to lose.

My MP is a Scottish Tory for whom I did not vote and (unlike in the Scottish Parliament where proportional representation guarantees everyone's choice is honoured) I have no voice at Westminster about the terrible economic effects on my family and the loss of European citizenship.

My country, Scotland, did not want to leave the EU. I can't get to the march and the epetition is the only way of registering my deep distress and feeling of helplessness.

I thought the ramping up of hatred towards members of parliament by our own PM was utterly disgraceful and I really don't like the things being said here about people like myself simply for signing a petition which is the only protest tool I have.

humptydumpty Fri 22-Mar-19 15:37:44

Persistentdonor I agree, that is exactly what's needed; but I feel the momentum is now probably wearing off. Let's hope there is a massive turnout at the March tomorrow.

Persistentdonor Fri 22-Mar-19 15:32:21

I do think if the numbers rise to more than 17.5 million votes the MPs will have to react in some way, but currently the petition needs around 14 million more signatures before that can happen. hmm

crystaltipps Fri 22-Mar-19 15:30:07

Of course people can have more than one email address but just to rubbish hundreds of thousands of people by saying that it’s only a few nutters sending thousands of emails is disingenuous. I’ve sent one thanks.

Dinahmo Fri 22-Mar-19 15:20:09

Sussexborn

We Remainers have put up with anti EU campaigners since we first joined so I think that we should be able to complain. I've recently discovered James O'Brien on LBC and have found that the Remainers are generally polite and genial and the Leavers are usually belligerent and have little factual knowledge.

jura2 Fri 22-Mar-19 14:49:04

How strange that those who refute totally the multiple fraudulent nature of the Referendum, which has been clearly proven, despite all the attempts to stop investigations, at the highest level ....

are so keen to shout about this petition- which was born how of the massive frustration re the ridiculous debâcle we now have and Mrs May's attempt to tell us how we are supposed to feel about the situation, her blackmail and total ignorance of the 48% who are now a lot more for all sorts of reasons, and the total disregard of cooperation with other parties.

Her comments really inflammed an already very tense situation. I suppose the million + who will march peacefully tomorrow will be ignored or derided too.

varian Fri 22-Mar-19 14:39:50

Farage has already planned his escape

MaizieD Fri 22-Mar-19 14:36:59

Now bring on all the ridiculous Remain conspiracy theories.

What ridiculous conspiracy theories would those be? Like the ones Theresa May acknowledges?

The true position is that the PM is well aware of the notorious facts…well publicised facts…of the EC findings, fact of an appeal, police investigations, ICO, DCMS committees.

It appears that Farage thinks that Remainers have enlisted the help of Russian bots. Well, he'd know all about them, wouldn't he? Though as Putin's aim is to break up the EU I don't quite understand why he would be helping the Remain cause...

Gonegirl Fri 22-Mar-19 14:12:26

Just said on the news it's up to three million.

Sussexborn Fri 22-Mar-19 14:11:43

Is there a law saying only one e-mail address per person? If so I had better hang around in case the remain police come out to arrest me. Nothing to stop people have 100s of e-mail addresses if they choose to.

I was going to say something very rude to Crystaltipps but realised I would then be stooping down to the Remainers extremely low level.

If the result had gone the other way my feeling is that Leavers would have graciously accepted the result as part of being fortunate enough to live in a democracy.

Now bring on all the ridiculous Remain conspiracy theories. They sound like two year olds having a meltdown. Using every underhand trick in the book to undermine the democratic process. Disgraceful behaviour.