Haves and have nots - Lorraine Kelly

Dear oh dear, what a lot of sanctimonious and judgemental people there are. I wonder how many have money invested in an ISA account ...

Well, not me.

There was a time when Lorraine Kelly was actually a serious journalist. I'm sure she reported on the plane disaster was it Lochabie? not sure of the spelling.

Not me either MissA I wish

Ive always found her incincere "ooo Im soooo nice and soooo intetested". But too ott to be believable. Think the same about Holly Willoughby.

No ISAs here either. They are not actually any more tax free than other small savings these days anyway so false comparison

Never have taken her at face value. Always thought if her as a tv personality rather than a serious presenter. Her constant giggling really puts me off listening to her.

Can't stand the woman and even less so now. Many years ago I remember her interviewing the late Toby Jessel MP who cut short the proceedings by saying "I'm sorry, but I just can't understand your accent...." He was being rude and snobbish of course, but it did make me laugh.

Lorraine Kelly used to write a column for the Sun. She wrote a column explaining why disabled people were getting too much money. She used figures from an article in the Telegraph which that paper had withdrawn and apologised for. It was at a time when disability hate crime was rocketing.
Then she turns up for Children in Need or Comic Relief with her arm around people in wheelchairs putting on her caring face.
I haven't been able to watch her since.

grannyactivist she hasn't avoided it, she argued that she was in the wrong tax bracket as she is a performer not an employee. Apparently there are different tax codes for the two

Will not watch anything on tv she appears in but she somehow manages to creep onto my screen whilst appearing on an advert for a fashion chain catalogue.
or furnishing her house like her 'friend' from an online store? - I think not!!
Although I have used them myself

Esmeralda I am sure most of us have been in the type of work and paid tax via the PAYE system; there is tax avoidance and tax evasion which are two different things - what Kelly is has been found to be legal but is it moral?

had done

Can't stand that LK today!!
Advertising etc!! Should give it to charity! Gets paid for her appearance at charity events! Xx

Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's moral - very disappointed in LK. My heroine is JK Rowling who recently "fell off" the Top 10 Rich List because she gives away so much of her money to charity, and has continued to live in the UK and pay UK taxes (millions of ££ every year).

I dislike the woman.

Trial, judgement and sentencing by chat forum who base their information on what a journalist has deemed should be published. How smug we PAYE people can now feel. She could not have been slammed more if she had gunned down her TV crew.

I have no opinion on LK’s personality or morality but I would be careful condemning someone for trying to get her tax band changed. If you are self employed there are different tax rules - that goes for all sub contractors and self employed of which there are millions .

The tax bill was over 4 years.

Morality here seems to be tied up with the amount of money involved, and who it is. Our local plumber, electrician, or tax consultant will have the same benefits. So what is it that is immoral? The fact that she earns more money than most plumbers? How much money makes you immoral? Or is it because she is in the public eye?

Rich people are not automatically bad and poor people are not good by default.

Furthermore, I get the impression that people equal tax with helping the poor. My taxes pay for a lot of things I would rather not pay for and given the choice I would rather give to my favourite charity.

LK supports several charities from what I can read on Wikipedia so we have no idea how much she raises or gives away. It really is not our business and certainly not our right to judge.

If you are self employed there are different tax rules
Indeed, we know that from our neighbours - apparently there are ways to avoid paying tax legally and to pay a much lower rate of tax than those who have it taken from salary through PAYE.

Is it moral though?

I don't care how much she gives to charity - so do many people who do not dodge their taxes.

It really is not our business and certainly not our right to judge.
Yes, it is our business when public services are struggling for funds.

Lumarei, “Trial, judgement and sentencing”

Isn’t that what you have just done to us ? We have a right to an opinion on what we know. You don’t know us at all but you’ve judged us.

Many people have a 'public persona' which they use at work - teachers, for instance, anyone who has a customer-facing job, doctors, nurses etc.
Does this tax ruling apply to them too?

Nope. Giving to charities of your chosing is nothing like paying tax. Nothing like it.

Plus charity donations are a method of tax evasion in themselves sometimes, not so altruistic then!

Also I find it grotesque when the very people who thrive on being in the 1% pat themselves on the back for their philanthropy!

Irrespective of the LK situation In think we don't pay enough tax. Like the OP, my husband and I would have preferred to live in a high tax economy with improved social services and care.

I agree with all the above views. It's high time the public rebelled .
Boycotting her program would be a good start. I do that already because I can't stand or understand her accent, so over dramatised, she gives me a headache. And her stupid giggle .... just turn her off I say.

I have never been keen on her. I find her so false and as nannypiano has said that stupid giggle is so annoying!
Well she's shown her true colours now, eh?

I think many of us pay enough tax already NotSpaghetti and if everyone paid their fair share( are you listening LK?) then there would be more money in the pot to go around. Let’s not forget tax is not just PAYE/ income tax it’s the VAT we pay on almost everything, road fund tax, insurance tax, council tax, stamp duties and crikey knows how many more.