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Jeremy Corbyn

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jura2 Sat 23-Mar-19 20:43:10

He really has to go.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/23/corbyns-cabinet-set-for-another-huge-rift-michael-savage-toby-helm?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR3WLCoxzMEe20fUyYSJnowUKB_UvzC6m-JgNqzXUbY81NKZF-gwwynIL60

Suerussell Sat 13-Apr-19 23:28:02

The Labour Party Manifesto is not a hare brained scheme. It is fully costed and sustainable.
I believe passionately in the NHS, healthcare for all. We are going to lose this if we continue selling of parts of the NHS to private providers.

I despair of the MPs who do not support the democratically elected leader of their Party. They undermine and brief against the Party at every opportunity.

The Labour Party is a broad church, unless the Right wing of the Labour Party accept the will of the membership we are in danger of losing the next election. It will not be the fault of Jeremy Corbyn or the Labour Manifesto if we do.

Grandad1943 Sat 13-Apr-19 22:33:05

It is being rumoured that should the Brexit situation be resolved in the next few months, Jeremy Corbyn will step down as Labour leader. The reason for that it is being stated would be that Corbyn will be seventy-two at the time of the next scheduled General Election and that he feels would be far too old for him to take up such a position.

In reality, I believe that Corbyn wishes his legacy to be that under his leadership the Labour party was once again returned to its grassroots members, and in that far more left wing in its policies.

In the above, there can be no return to the days of Blair and Brown as its internal ruling structure simply would not allow that to happen.

However, Corbyn is aware that the broader affiliated Labour movement in the country has now had enough of the continuous in fighting in the Parliamentary Party and that may be the real reason why Corbyn is allowing the rumours of his standing down to continue without denial.

Should there be a fresh leader then undoubtedly it will be someone very much in Corbyns image. My thoughts (for what they are worth) are that it will be someone from the back benches who is a firm supporter of present Labour polices.

My money will be on Jess Philips as a strong outside possibility.

Bridgeit Sat 13-Apr-19 21:35:11

I guess it’s all been done before in one form or another.
How does that rude (ish) saying go : same s - -t , different day (month , year, century ?)

Iam64 Sat 13-Apr-19 21:31:03

I agree with Eloethan’s analysis of the dreadful state of public services as a result of years of Tory misrule. I wish I was confident A Corbin led Labour Party could win the next election. This week the polls are in Labours favour.
I despair that left leaning labour supporting people continue to express only negative comments about the Blair:Brown governments. No one can defend Iraq. However they came in after education and health had been neglected by successive Tory governments. The difference in health and education can’t be underestimated, there was real investment on early years because research evidence said that’s what was needed.
I’m no fan if Corbyn but I fear a Boris/Gove (name any tory) government much more than. Labour government even with Jc in charge

lemongrove Sat 13-Apr-19 21:23:36

Yes, the history books in the future will have many chapters on the last few years!

Bridgeit Sat 13-Apr-19 21:19:25

One wonders how it’s all going to end Lemongrove, , they are leaving space for NF to fill, so no light at the end of the tunnel there either. It may make interesting reading in years to come, ..... not so good in real time.

lemongrove Sat 13-Apr-19 21:11:57

Very true Brid

Anniebach Sat 13-Apr-19 21:11:46

I couldn’t trust an MP who attended a wreath laying ceremony for terrorists but four years later said he was there but didn’t know if he was involved . Either a lie or a serious problem with memory

Bridgeit Sat 13-Apr-19 21:09:40

Corbyn is to Labour what May is to Conservatives
They are both the wrong leaders for their parties at this moment in time.

lemongrove Sat 13-Apr-19 20:59:00

The Labour MP’s who disagree with Corbyn are not particular friends of Tony Blair, just that they are realistic enough to see that Corbyn and McDonnell would likely bankrupt the country with hare brained schemes.
There is a reason Corbyn was only a backbencher for all those years.

Callistemon Sat 13-Apr-19 20:55:39

The change in direction in the Labour Party is led by Jeremy Corbyn
Well, that is debatable. Some may say that Jeremy is not so much a leader as a figurehead for those who have real charge of the Labour Party.

Suerussell Sat 13-Apr-19 20:49:46

I trust Jeremy Corbyn. We need change in this country, things need to change big style!

We need a radical change in housing, Education, NHS, social Security just for starters. A Labour Government can deliver the change required.

The change in direction in the Labour Party is led by Jeremy Corbyn but it is supported by the greatly increased membership under his leadership.

There are Labour MPs who don’t agree with the new direction as they are still committed to the Labour Party as was under Tony Blair.

In my opinion Tony Blair and his acolytes have been shown to be no friends of democracy or decency and I’m happy their day is done.

lemongrove Sat 13-Apr-19 20:41:42

I expect he will keep keeping on, mind you.Unless things get difficult.

lemongrove Sat 13-Apr-19 20:39:48

Only the initials were the same...
Jesus was not a Socialist, the concept was unknown.
He said ‘render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s’ when people complained about taxes paid to Rome.
You must be his number one fan grannyrebel99

Anniebach Sat 13-Apr-19 20:32:37

but Christ was a Jew !

Bridgeit Sat 13-Apr-19 20:24:14

That ended very badly

grannyrebel99 Sat 13-Apr-19 19:52:12

I agree with Grandad1943 Jeremy Cornyn is a great guy and a true socialist. Anyone know who the first true socialist was? Well I'll tell you it was someone with the same initials. Got it now? Yes, it was Jesus of course! Keep on keeping on Jeremy!

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 09:15:18

If he is cosying up to the DUP he must have changed his mind on a United Ireland.

jura2 Sat 30-Mar-19 09:10:21

Can we get back to Corbyn please?

So can anyone who is a remainer and has trusted the Corbyn 'long game' - can still continue to trust him. Have I got it right - he and friends have voted against Conference, which they have been swearing by for months - and allied themselves with the DUP and ERG. Really?

Anniebach Sat 30-Mar-19 08:41:37

My admiration for Mrs May is for her dignity .

She could have done this, that and the other ? That’s
‘Being wise after the event’.

Eloethan Fri 29-Mar-19 23:47:24

Yet you have been quite admiring of May anniebach.

She has allowed herself to be pushed and pulled by so many interests (including the DUP, for a price of course) instead of trying to bring various factions together in an effort to reach some sort of consensus. And once again she has a a tantrum in which she points the finger at everyone but herself.

She had three years to try and create a forum in which to achieve some basic points on which MPs could, if not welcome, at least be prepared to compromise on. Instead she has waited until the final possible moment to demonstrate that nothing at all has been achieved in those three years and everything is still up in the air

Anniebach Thu 28-Mar-19 20:33:10

I don’t think Corbyn could bring in an extreme anything, he is led not a leader. This makes it more worrying thinking he could be PM .

Fennel Thu 28-Mar-19 20:02:00

I tend to agree with you. Eloethan. I don't think he's' the best thing since sliced bread'. But he's much less potentially harmful than others think.
To me, he has a few issues to which he sticks through thick and thin. eg pro Palestine, con EU.
But he can't be bothered with, or doesn't understand tactical politics. He's a very complex person, and maybe not all that bright. But doesn't have the potential to bring in an extreme trotskyist regime.
We all have our own opinions, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

varian Thu 28-Mar-19 19:48:56

Only a Tory could call Corbyn the best thing since sliced bread. He's been a gift to the Tory party.

lemongrove Thu 28-Mar-19 19:47:46

Eloethan I know you still think Corbyn is the best thing since sliced bread, but others can now see him for what he is.
Labour heartlands can’t stand him and no wonder.
How can anyone have any confidence in him ( only Marxists need answer that) wink