Jeremy Corbyn

Don't kid yourself . I did name you and there are others who only come back for good when they get older and need the health care but obvs not you.
As for seeing red...I don't vote that way. ?
Enjoy your visit.

GG54 : '...and I wonder if they immerse themselves as deeply on social sites (discussing politics and other topics) of the country of their birth in which they now reside, as they do on topics peculiar to the UK.
If they do...then they can't have much of a social life if the posts on here are any indication of the level of 'immersion'.'

wow - go on at least be direct and honest and clearly name me! We are in UK now, and visiting friends and family, not much time for t'internet. So I'll reply now..

Immersion - well we live just 8 miles from where I was born and bred, and lived to age 19- so immersed we are indeed. And no, no need for discussing politics, etc, where we live- as we have plenty of people to discuss those with face to face- but when it comes to Brexit and specific UK things, as we live in an area with very few Brits - then we have little choice.

My parents don't need us anymore because they both died since we moved- they were 94 and 96 at the time - so we knew that would happen. Exchange rate with Euro has ensured expats in EU have lost a large chunk of their UK pensions- but for us, the pleasure has been double- as the Swiss Franc has gone up as fast as Sterling has fallen- so far a 50- and at some point even 60% down. Few could survive a further drop in income- even with considerable belt tightening.

But don't worry in our case - we will never be a burden on the State if we come back, we have made absolutely sure of that - and we would gain 50-60 or more % in doing so- just on exchange rate. Now I am sure that will make you see red- but we do get reciprocal health care in Switzerland, as we are British retired on no Swiss pension or income- the maximu we have to pay per year is about £700 each- then UK picks up the tab.

corbyn didn’t believe in the human rights of the Olympic athletes from Israel, he attended a wreath laying ceremony to their murderers .

Good points, Trisher.
Also, from what I've read in the Jewish press, there's a recognition that the ordinary 'man in the street' in Palestine is indeed suffering because of the actions of the IDF. And Israel hopes to make recompense.
But also a lot of the suffering comes from the internal battles between Fatah and Hamas. A subject which is rarely mentioned.

Of course he understands Mycatisahacker what you fail to understand is that some Jewish people are Zionists and Zionists find the policy of any acceptance whatsoever of Palestinian rights abhorrent. That they see Jeremy Corbyn as a threat not because he is anti-semitic but because he believes in human rights and one of the biggest abuses of human rights today is the treatment of the Palestinian people and that these people might use any accusations they can to prevent him or his ideas gaining power.

Here’s an idea contact the chief rabbi he can explain it to him. And you

Dinahmo

Whispers errrr we do understand. Most people works wide understand that too. It’s pretty easy. Most can dissemble. Even Jews who clearly don’t understand irony.

Pehaps you could explain it to Jeremy though because he clearly does not.

When will some of you realise that there is a difference between antisemitism and antizionism. The former is anti Jewish people and the latter is anti the state of Israel. There is a big difference. Many Jewish people are opposed to the way in which the state of Israel operates.

GrannyGravy

it’s mutual your posts seem to me to be eminently sensible.

I sometimes feel I am in a parallel universe where the lunatics actually have taken over the asylum.

Probably get told off for using the world lunatic. It’s bound to offend some.,

Blimey Mycatisahacker. I think I am becoming your "fan girl" or should that be "fan Gran"!!!!

tricher

What baffles,me more than amuses me, is the utter blinkers that Corbyn worshippers seem to wear.

I can’t be bothered to discuss anti semitism with you as it’s obviously a fact that he has alienated and disgusted the vast majority of Jews in this country but of course they don’t get irony do they

Labour policies.

Taking back facilities to governance control

sounds great but when quizzes on the costs the buy out costs Abbott has no hard facts ditto her fiasco on policing costs.

Education.

Angela Raynor basic policy wanting to reduce class sizes to under 30! Great idea but when quizzes by Andrew Neale she has no facts of figures on how many kids actually were in classes over 30 or how much it would cost to sort this problem out or indeed if it even existed as a problem.

Corbyn on the tuition gaff!

I could go on. Utterly inept and incompetent.

I think the Tories are almost as dreadful by the way. No mistake about that.

Take off your blinkers. He’s not up to the job. It’s not a character assassination of him he’s just not up to the top job. Just like May.

Mycatisahacker It does amuse me when people just jump on a bandwagon without any idea of what they are saying. Is there anti-semitism in old writings? Undoubtedly. Does publishing or recognising these writings because of historical interest mean that you endorse or approve of that anti-semitism? Of course not. If we are to proceed along those lines we risk wiping out the entire history of how ideas and concepts developed and changed, and of course therefore, where the ideas which resulted in the rise of fascism came from. And the only people who would benefit from that are the right wing and fascists.
We simply ignore historical attitudes to the cost of our own future. There may be people ringing in to LBC expressing their disgust but I suspect many of them are like the people on GN just looking for something else to throw at Corbyn. It really is pathetic.
Try arguing with the Labour policies he stands for instead of raking up supposed dirt (But actually I suspect you can't)

He keeps a low profile because he’s not a leader he’s a protester. He doesn’t want to be PM it would terrify him. He’s a momentum puppet whose too stupid to realise he was being manipulated and got swept into the leadership against his will. He never thought he would win. Who sensible would.

Well if he’s not an anti Semite he’s as thick as mince and has worse judgment than may and that’s saying something.

Corbyn is not honest, I would check the calendar is he said
‘Today is Thursday ‘,

He is not for ‘the people’ , he is for his Marxist fantasies.

This is a man who put Venezuela as a Utopia.

Jeremy Corbyn is a true socialist. He's probably the only politician who doesn't have his own agenda. He is truly for the people. I, for one, will vote for him. I've always been a labour supporter and will continue to be one. I don't believe he is an antisemite either. That's just a stick this right wing press have used to beat him with. I just wish he didn't keep such a low profile.

Keir not Keri ( ruddy predictive text) so heartened to have Gransnetters agreeing with me rather than slagging me off.

I wanted yvette too.

I don’t agree with her on Brexit but I know she’s a woman with principles and integrity and she feels she’s doing what she thinks is right.

She’s in s very small group.

Corbyn is a walking disaster.

I too agree Jaxie

totally agree Jaxie

Jeremy Corbyn is a fossil. He attracts as supporters old style lefties who are out of touch with reality. My opinion has been formed by attendance at my local CP meetings. I am a life- long Labour Party member, centre left in persuasion. Keri Starmer is a principled man, Yvette Cooper a principled woman: either of those would be my choice as leader.

I smile at the discussion about closet Tories! Surely if you a Tory you say so or labour you say so. Why would you keep it in any closer or an anonymous Internet forum.

You do realise that criticism of jezza doesn’t make you a rabid Tory! Most of his fiercest critics sit behind him in parliament.

My post at 17.32 ....anyone?

that who

Yes...and anyone else that the cap fits.

Do you mean jura GG54?

Actually she did only say she’s ‘thinking’ of returning here so you might be right.

I suppose it depends upon the exchange rate. If it’s good = pensions into euros is fine. If it plummets (as a few years ago) = ex pats come home as they don’t get as many euros for their pensions as they did in boom times.