It's unbelievable that anyone can use words such as 'dread' and 'feel ill' to describe something that hasn't even happened.
You'd think that a catastrophic occurrence was on the horizon, one that would wipe out mankind.
FGS...it's nowt but a blip.
This country survived two wars and just dusted themselves off and started over.
Have we lost all sense and reasoning?
Tsunami? No
Earthquake? No
Bushfire? No
Volcanic eruption? No
Floods? No
Drought? No
Plague? No
Chemical disaster? No
So...you might have to pay pennies more for Weetabix or Bran Flakes but so what...
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(273 Posts)Just joined GN and I thought this would be the place to ask. On the news today I heard them talking about getting rid of Mrs May and getting a “proper brexiteer”.
What’s one of those?
I think the figure of only 19% of leavers saying that the national interest was the prime consideration says it all.
Interestingly you-gov has carried out research in December 2018 into what the voter thought was important in relation to their MP and the way they voted over Brexit.
Question was “How should MPs vote on (Mays) Brexit deal?
48% of remainers considered that the national interest should be the most important consideration.
19% of leavers considered that the national interest should be of prime importance
Whereas
41% of leavers thought that regardless of the nation wanted now MPs should vote for a brexit.
6% of remainer thought the same.
However only a quarter of both remain and leavers thought that MPs should vote for Mays deal.
Nothing can be taken for granted by the voter in the event of another election. Because an MP has not voted the way his constituency voted does not mean he/she will be punished by the voter. Neither does it make sense. A good MP who shows, integrity, honesty and intelligence is as rare as hens teeth. They should be supported.
Ah GracesGranMK3 but these duplicitous MP’s stood up for election parroting a party manifesto that, unknown to us mugs who voted for them, they had no intention of following through. If the ordinary Joe Soap can’t be represented by a vote, why bother? It’s rigged to thwart ‘the will of the people’.
Until the next election hehe! These mendacious MP’s know their time is up (yep we’re looking at you Yvette Cooper and Dominic Grieve amongst others). Don’t bang the door on the way out there’s a love.
Excerpt from Prospect Magazine, written by Jonathan Lis dated 11/04/19.
The entire article can be found on twitter and worth a read.
Of course, the Remainers’ strength is not time alone. Comparing today’s chaos to the promises made three years ago is an exercise in humiliation which unites and galvanises voters alike. It is not simply that the Brexiters’ pledges have not been and cannot be delivered. Rather, the complacency of inept leaders and opportunism of charlatan patriots has brought the country to its knees.
How would voters in June 2016 have reacted to the news that, in April 2019, the prime minister would be begging France and Germany to allow us to remain longer in the EU? That we would find ourselves two days from voluntarily breaking up our trade infrastructure and introducing medicine shortages? That, around the world, Britain would stand as a by-word for political chaos and national disintegration? The argument for a referendum is not simply based on what voters think now. We should ask ourselves who in the Britain of 2016 could have wanted or voted for the Britain we inhabit today.
The longer this farce continues, the more people will decide that it is no longer worth the pain. May cannot deliver her deal. Parliament will continue in paralysis. A general election seems all but inevitable. All the while, the problem will remain a Brexit which we cannot implement without kneecapping our economy or our democratic oversight or both. Now the threat of no-deal has vanished, we have time to consider if this is the path we really choose. It now seems likelier than ever that it is not. The EU has compounded May’s nightmare, but Britain’s may soon be ending.
Some good news!
Sky is reporting that the civil service has been told to stop all no-deal planning. It is an outrageous shame that so much has been spent on such a useless exercise. (Hammond allowed £4.2bn) but at least with luck this will now cease.
Imagine how politics would be different if Mark Francois and Nigel Farage were not over-compensating for their French-sounding surnames.
twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1115602376700776450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1115602376700776450&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fmark-francos-spartan-phalanx_uk_5cacac1ee4b02e7a705da9ff
A brief Guide to Mark Francois
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mark-francos-spartan-phalanx_uk_5cacac1ee4b02e7a705da9ff?guccounter=2
Oh dear heaven, not Francois! Did you hear his 'Father forgive them - for they know not what they do.' outburst in the House? He surely isn't comparing himself to Jesus asking his father to forgive those who were about to crucify him? He doesn't sound very stable to me.
He's often very brusque and rude in interviews and brags about being in the army when he was in fact in the TA according to his own website. Twitter was quick to point out to him that weekends away hardly make you a hardened veteran. He famously said, 'I was in the army, and I wasn't trained to lose.' Presumably not at the weekends anyway.
I guess he wants a vote of no confidence in the PM because it's looking as though this may go to a peoples' vote and he suspects the people will reject it now, so he wants her gone soon before a peoples' vote can be set up.
These are the types he will lead varian
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/11/tories-radical-fringe-party-government-brexit-extremists
Mark Francois would be my choice as the last ever leader of the Tory Party!
They have 79 sitting days to sort it out. What do they do?
Go on leave until after Easter.
Your last comment says it all Labaik
I may have got this wrong but I think Boris Johnson did put himself forward and Gove was supporting him at first, then declared that he regarded BJ as unsuitable and put himself forward. As a result BJ stood down.
Does anyone know why Johnson decided not to run for party leader when he should have been the one implementing the result of the referendum? But now brexiteers seem to think he will be their saviour...[or did he realise Brexit was impossible to deliver perhaps...]
Some work by Led by donkeys. Calling out the charlatans
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Francois would be an embarrassment to the country as PM. But scarily, he would probably be quite popular among Tory membership who vote in leadership elections.
Francois is known as “Uncle Albert” by his fellow MPs as he keeps on about the war( he was in the TA). He is a dead ringer for Billy Bunter and has zero charisma, so ok for a PM then.
Maizie ??
He was frite of the kippers nonnie
Like so many he lacks a spine.
Perhaps my memory is wrong but I thought DC went to the EU saying that if he couldn't improve our deal he would call a referendum? He couldn't so I don't think he had much choice did he? If I am right then he kept his word which is better than TM.
Surely the fact that he couldn't get a better deal should have been a warning to all that we were not going to get 'the easiest deal ever'? That is of course apart from common sense telling us the EU would be looking after it's own interests rather than ours!
MaizieD.........??
Totally agree that "mastermind" and David Cameron should never be used in the same sentence (and that comes from a leave voting Conservative!!!!!)
DC masterminded the referendum
Not sure that 'mastermind' is quite the right verb to use here...
I’ve noticed how loads of people have been impressed with Tusk. His apparent good manners and sophistication seems to be impressing everyone who recognise these things.
He is clearly a person of integrity and strength, having been imprisoned in his fight against communism. We could do with some of this leadership style in the U.K.
I see the Telegraph are supporting Francois as possible leadership material.
I am sure we have higher standards than such an unfortunate “little corporal”
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