JRM - man of principle

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I was named Maw by Jal as well she knows - she brought in a point that I had not posted about, so funnily enough being named meant I thought it was aimed at me- funny that isn’t it?

MOn no one is disagreeing about DA or has forgotten either - it was ET that ab was mistaken about

But if you are NOT named in a comment, why do you assume it is “aimed” at you maryeliza ?

Jab in the interests of accuracy there IS a difference between a private school and a state school even if the latter is selective.

I would appreciate it in the future Jal if you name me in a post that you ensure that I actually made a comment relevant to what you mention. Is that all right please?

Diane Abbott did send her son to a private school. He attended City of London boy's school. Funny how soon that has been forgotten.

ummmmm!

Emily Thornburys children went to Dame Alice Owens School in Potters Bar. Not a school in the catchment area as that was considered, well, you know!!!!! Dame Alice is one of the oldest, and now one of the best State Schools in the country. On a par with Holland Park, so yes you've been to state school, but a selected one!!!

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Hes a thief who doesn’t pay taxes on his millions... decent bloke indeed
I was replying to whoever said that, if that was you then the reply was quite relevant.

Jal you addressed the post re investments to me but I was making points about his changing his voting record so why did you do that? So it was a red herring re what I personally
was posting about, I know you love having a pop at me but you shouldn’t get so excited about doing it that you get so muddled. Bless.

The issue about investments you brought up was a red herring.
I don't think so - the whole point of the thread is JRM and the point was brought up about his financial dealings.
Anyone who criticises another for their financial arrangements needs to be on sure ground - and know exactly where their pensions, possibly savings, are invested.

Someone brought up Tony Benn too - that arch Euro-sceptic. Some, like Benn, realise they have been so privileged and decide to give something back and help repair the unfairness of it all - others like RM - milk it to its full extent and never pay anything back - but Benn avoided inheritance tax which would have helped the public coffers!

It would have been extremely interesting to listen to a discussion between Benn and Rees-Mogg on the EU.

Labour Minister Tony Benn (shortly before his death) emotionally explains why he fought against the European Union all his life and why we should too.

Correction - ET didn’t , both went to state schools

Yes I know that ab and imo they were wrong. What exactly was your point ?

Diane Abbott , Emily Thornbury ,Chackrabati chose not to send their children to state schools

JRM has adopted his 4th change of position on how he’ll vote - such principles. Bless him. If only he’d gone to Winchester

You can’t blame individuals for the education their parents chose for them nor for any wealth or propert they inherited. But people eg Tony B are culpable for where they decide to educate their own children and arrange their tax affairs. Btw upthread Jal the point I was making about not living in a glasshouse was about how I conduct my tax affairs. The issue about investments you brought up was a red herring.

I don’t ‘hate’ any politicians personally but I am doubtful about the credibility of people from very privileged backgrounds in politics."
Which rules out many from the left and the right - and centre and those pesky Liberals.

Tony Benn was mentioned earlier in the thread: Westminster School, Oxford, town house in an exclusive area of London and a family estate. Son Hilary and siblings attended very exclusive and expensive prep schools until their parents decided to send them to a comprehensive school; not just a bog-standard comprehensive school, though - it was Holland Park. At least the Benns could claim that their children were 'state-educated'.
Tony Benn, the former Cabinet minister and Labour radical who died in March this year, was too left wing for the Soviet Union, the KGB’s top agent in London has revealed
Used loopholes in the tax system (surely a very capitalist manoeuvre) to avoid inheritance tax.

But why let the truth get in the way when making a political point?

Of course, many criticisms can be levelled at Jacob Rees-Mogg too, I do not need to list them as they are in evidence on this thread.

I probably would not have voted for either btw - and am defending neither.

I said a couple of weeks ago GrandmaMoira that I would accept TM’s deal. I said at the time it’s not Leave. But it’s not Remain either, so it’s a compromise.

If both sides are disillusioned that’s good. No side feels they have got everything they wanted. That’s compromise!

As the MP’s have voted down 8 alternatives tonight, I’m hopeful (still) that TM’s deal gets through.

If it does, she will walk. That has to be a bonus. Plus it means we leave on 22 May! Maybe, just maybe, at this 11th hour, the EU will offer something in the next 36 hours to get the deal through (so Arlene Foster can agree to it).

Fingers crossed ?

Why are Leavers blaming Remain MPs for the mess we are in? Leavers want to leave but do not vote for the deal that is on offer. Remainers are much more moderate and willing to accept this deal as a compromise. The ERG caused all this and will never compromise or be moderate.
I like the analogy that JRM and JC are two sides of the same coin.

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How high is your pile of stones Urmstongran ?
I bet it's higher than anyone else's.
Shall we all measure our piles?
Anyone for a slanging slinging match?
David?
Anyone?

so back to " virtue signalling", somebody enlighten me

I’ll fetch the popcorn. ?