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JRM - man of principle

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maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 10:54:06

He’s really stuck to what he believes in hasn’t he? His supporters must be so proud of him ( not to mention Nanny of course). So he gets the chance to change his mind but the great unwashed don’t?

Beammeupscottie Wed 27-Mar-19 11:30:55

This man represents everything people hate about the Tories; the entitlement to rule; putting Party above people; a fossilised view of what Britain is to-day. All presented with a kind of charmless witlessness in a measured tone that the upper class adopt when talking to the grockles.

25Avalon Wed 27-Mar-19 11:39:25

He happens to be a good constituency MP as all of us who voted him in are well aware. Not all voters were tories either. Why are you so rude about him? As Eleanor Roosevelt said "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

Gonegirl Wed 27-Mar-19 11:46:15

I think he always sounds like a consultant giving out really bad news. Those poor children. Imagine being told off for some misdemeanour by him! Must be terrifying.

MawBroon Wed 27-Mar-19 11:47:36

Saw the title and spluttered my coffee everywhere!

25Avalon Wed 27-Mar-19 11:47:44

By the way Beammeupscottie do you actually know what a grockle is? It is what the locals call a holidaymaker visiting Devon or Cornwall although in Cornwall they are also called emmets.

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 11:47:59

Frankly what type of MP he is is irrelevant to the fact that after all his posturing he is flying in the wind with regard to which way to vote on Mays Deal. He’s always wanted no deal because that way he’ll make most money but in the face of no Brexit, he’s going for a delayed Brexit - it’s all about what suits him. This man has no principles whatsoever. I have more time today for those members of the ERG who at least are sticking to their guns.

eazybee Wed 27-Mar-19 11:52:05

Yes , Jacob Rees-Mogg is exactly that, a man of principle.
He, and many others in the Conservative and Labour party are attempting to find a way out of this morass that Theresa May's criminally inept negotiations have landed our country in, fuelled by the refusal of a number of Remainer voters to accept the result of a democratic vote.

And such a pleasure to hear an erudite man who expresses himself clearly and grammatically, so that even the most biased and prejudiced members of society are able to understand what he says.

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 11:52:26

Beammeupscottie

"This man represents everything people hate about the Tories;"
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You use the word ' HATE ' which is in fact the crux of the argument behind most comments about not only individual Tory MP's but about Tories in general.

I have often noted GN posters use the word ' HATE ' when referring to the Conservatives and to be honest if the mindset is to ' HATE ' then as sure as night will follow day there will be no debate nor discussion as that is an impossibility in the eyes of those who ' HATE'.

crystaltipps Wed 27-Mar-19 11:52:53

I think he’ll support May’s deal even though he claims it is worse than remaining and has voted against it , but then oust May and try to gain power with Bojo.

25Avalon Wed 27-Mar-19 11:54:27

Eazybee I am with you

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 11:55:02

25Avalon Wed 27-Mar-19 11:47:44

" By the way Beammeupscottie do you actually know what a grockle is?"
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Obviously not.

Ginny42 Wed 27-Mar-19 12:05:22

This man of principle has amassed a lot of money in off shore accounts in the Cayman islands, defends off-shore investments thereby avoiding paying tax in the UK and thinks food banks 'rather uplifting'.

www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/09/brexiters-put-money-offshore-tax-haven

paddyann Wed 27-Mar-19 12:11:48

Jacob Rees-Mogg’s Company Accounts show c£103M profit over last 5 years, but paid ZERO UK corporation tax as ultimate ownership in Cayman Islands. No contribution for schools, hospitals, roads, defence, public services, welfare etc. No wonder he is keen to avoid new EU tax laws.

If thats the tory view of principles god help us all !!

annodomini Wed 27-Mar-19 12:23:45

Liking the irony of your title, maryeliza

Lily65 Wed 27-Mar-19 12:27:35

He's a jolly decent chap who just happens to be awfully well connected.

jura2 Wed 27-Mar-19 12:51:49

oh my - principles? oh my oh my- earned millions in last few years on if tax haven businesses- paying not one penny towards our NHS, schools and services. If you call that 'principled' then there is no answer to that.

EllanVannin Wed 27-Mar-19 13:26:05

They're all the damned same, looking after their own interests------all parties. You never see any local MP's except when there's a GE. Well they can all bog off !!

GabriellaG54 Wed 27-Mar-19 14:04:13

hmm I wonder how many 'Remain' MPs have offshore accounts, Cayman Isles, IoM...certain Swiss cantons...

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 15:12:23

JRM has been insulting fellow MPs by reference to which public schools they went to - you couldn’t make it up could you? Another busted flush hits the decks - bye bye Jake you are busy writing your own political obituary - how awfully sad old chap

leyla Wed 27-Mar-19 15:21:14

My DD attended an event at which he met with teens. She is definitely not a Tory! But...she said that out of everyone (a selection from all parties), he was the only one who spoke clearly and gave straight answers - she didn't agree with his politics but thought that he spoke well.

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 15:23:29

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/27/brexit-referendum-conservative-party

Says it all

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 15:37:55

JRMs Commons contribution this afternoon summed up nicely on Twitter as ‘my old public school is better than your public school. Yah boo sucks 😂😂😂😂

Day6 Wed 27-Mar-19 15:46:16

You use the word ' HATE ' which is in fact the crux of the argument behind most comments about not only individual Tory MP's but about Tories in general

POGS - very well said. Thank you.

I have shuddered that people feel so strongly that they 'hate' certain groups. I was reminded of the nastiness and lack of reason after vile people strung up effigies of 'Tories' and dangled them over a bridge during the Conservative Party conference.

I really fear such nasty people with criminal intent in their hearts ever having the party they support being in government.

I am nothing like Jacob Rees-Mogg, our backgrounds couldn't be more different, yet he strikes me as a decent man of principle.

For some a public school background is enough grounds for hatred. Privilege of any sort is reason to hate. Wealthy people become targets of hatred - need I go on? I just don't get the politics of envy and hatred, yet we see it here even on GN, from an older generation. I have a strange socialist streak which runs beside my conservative one, perhaps because I am from the working classes, and I want fairness and honesty to prevail. JRM, so very different from me, plays with a straight bat.

JRM for me has always done his best to ensure we leave the EU. He feels as I do about our membership and he has stuck to his guns. He is a rare politician but for me, a good one. Parliament is all the richer imo for having him in its midst.

I await the haters tedious litany of JRM's faults. hmm

maryeliza54 Wed 27-Mar-19 16:00:35

I think his faults are already well known and beautifully expressed in the article above and his childish jibe above. One of the upsides of the this whole debacle is that it will be the end of him as anyone ever listened to again