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Yes this is about Brexit, but it is very concerning.....

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GillT57 Wed 27-Mar-19 18:00:55

Sorry if a bit long, but do read this: From a Labour MP

"I am a Labour MP who voted Remain, representing a constituency that voted heavily to Leave. I’m torn in two. I want to be accountable, I want to be involved, but I sit uselessly and helplessly, trapped in a Commons that’s falling to pieces at a time of national crisis. This diary is my silent scream.

"I’m one of the 650. We’ll all get the blame when the ship sinks, but in truth you might as well have put a dead cat in there instead of me; it would have had as much of a role as I’ve had in the Brexit discussions. Want to know what that feels like? It’s embarrassing, humiliating and hugely, overwhelmingly frustrating.

"At a time of looming disaster, there’s this awful feeling of paralysis. The regional whip told me at the weekend that I’d need to be in Westminster all this week. We don’t know when the votes are coming, what the votes will be or what our position is, but we know we need you there. In other words, we know nothing. But for yet another week, all my constituency engagements have been cancelled.

"We’re not alone. Most Tory MPs know nothing. Right now it feels like most of the cabinet knows nothing. It’s all about one woman, the prime minister, and she’s in a bunker so deep that no one can reach her.

"I sought out some Tory mates last week. They’re very senior in the party. I wanted them to tell me that despite appearances to the contrary, Theresa May was actually a fantastic poker player, that great minds were being consulted and the country was in safe hands. Back came no reassurance whatsoever. Her master plan, it seems, is to survive until the next day. If that doesn’t fill you with terror, nothing will.

"Where’s Labour in all this? It has no voice and no seat at the table. If we were a strong opposition, we’d be challenging a lot more effectively and we probably wouldn’t have tumbled into this black hole quite so quickly. We’d have seen it coming and done something about it.

"We’re not strong on this because we’re so divided. Jeremy’s completely ambivalent. Len McCluskey is really, really against a second referendum but most of the shadow cabinet are Londoners and want a People’s Vote. Jeremy tries to appease both sides, so we’ve never really had a clear position, nor been open about what that is. Keir Starmer’s doing a fabulous job but he’s not in the party’s top tier of decision-making, so the door gets shut on him as much as it does on everyone else.

"You end up with the absurdity of a government with the lowest approval rating for years that’s still neck and neck with Labour in the opinion polls. When you’re chatting with Tories they’ll say, “It’s amazing, we just do one f***-up after another. This government’s a total disaster and yet every time we screw up you lot save us by coming out and doing something worse.” It’s extraordinary, but it’s true.

"When I set off for the Commons today, it felt a bit like leaving for war or the funeral of a close relative. Friends texted to wish me luck. People at the station came up and said I should keep going, that this is survivable. I’m not so sure. I feel darkness and impotence and dread.

"And it’s all so utterly exhausting, which is really weird because physically, obviously, you’re not doing anything, and intellectually you’re not doing anything because you’re not involved in any of the negotiations. It’s more a spiritual weariness and it comes from a sense of foreboding, guilt and helplessness.

"What’s so frustrating is that I know I could contribute. If they let me, I could work on this. If they gave me a role, I’d work until I dropped down dead to try to get the best outcome for this country. Instead you sit there, waiting, in a constant state of anxiety. Because any moment now, something else might go wrong and make things even worse. It’s on my watch but what can I do? Bugger all.

"The terrifying truth is that the democratic structures we all put our faith in have turned out to be made of sand. Yes, I’m an MP. There are hundreds of us here this week. We’re supposed to be taking decisions that will affect our country for generations to come but you know what? Right now I don’t even feel like a tiny cog in this machine. Most of us here are as bewildered as everyone outside the Commons. That’s truly frightening."

Huw Spanner MP


Gonegirl Wed 27-Mar-19 18:05:20

Party political broadcasts on GN now then? hmm

Gonegirl Wed 27-Mar-19 18:08:06

I expect they all think they personally could fix it at a drop of a hat. Ridiculous rant.

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 18:10:52

Sorry but Huw Spanner MP.

Which constituency does he serve ?

Bathsheba Wed 27-Mar-19 18:11:33

You beat me to it Pogs. Would this be the Huw Spanner who is a freelance writer?

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 18:15:02

No idea Bathsheba and I am interested in hearing from GillT57.

I'm glad I'm not alone in querying the OP and I apologise if he is indeed a Labour MP.

EllanVannin Wed 27-Mar-19 18:15:17

That was actually a good and honest opinion of how helpless just one person feels who's up against a bunch of idiots who think they're right.

jura2 Wed 27-Mar-19 18:16:04

Barry Gardner stated clearly today 'Labour is NOT a remain party'- so where is that 'long game' and all the fence sitting- until the very last minute. I so hope Keir Starmer and other Remain Labour MPs will have the guts to resign and joint the Independents asap.

Some here have again and again supported Jeremy Corbyn - even though they are remainers. Hope that see the light now.

EllanVannin Wed 27-Mar-19 18:23:01

I don't support any of them. As far as I'm concerned I don't recognise politics or politicians in this country any more.

It's not even a country I recognise any more !

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 18:32:28

Huw Spanner is a journalist!

GillT57 Wed 27-Mar-19 18:36:02

Not a party political broadcast, picked it up from The Times and thought I would share it Gonegirl as I think it probably sums up the frustrations of the mass of backbench MPs.

lemongrove Wed 27-Mar-19 18:37:33

....but you said that Huw Spanner was an MP Gill hmm

GillT57 Wed 27-Mar-19 18:37:39

He is a writer, and was I believe quoting an anonymous Labour MP, sorry if that was not clear.

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 19:47:14

So when he said he was a Labour MP and signed off Huw Spanner MP it was obvious he was not a Labour MP?

I think this can be assumed to be a work of fiction unless there is a named MP who is genuinely wrote the what letter?

lutongranny Wed 27-Mar-19 19:59:32

2 days

jura2 Wed 27-Mar-19 20:00:23

hhhmmmm no

lutongranny Wed 27-Mar-19 20:02:46

2 days

GillT57 Wed 27-Mar-19 20:16:32

pogs. My mistake when I cut and oasted

GillT57 Wed 27-Mar-19 20:19:00

Pasted. Sorry for sloppy editing but I thought the gist of the article was interesting and illustrates the frustrations of the many backbenchers who are not being interviewed on the news or Newsnight.

B9exchange Thu 28-Mar-19 08:57:47

Why has Andy become lutongranny?

GrandmaMoira Thu 28-Mar-19 09:51:05

I can imagine that these feelings are true for many MPs. The MP where I was living at the time of the referendum is a Labour Remainer in a very strongly Remain constituency but her party does not support Remain so she cannot represent her constituents or her own views.
The MP where I live now is a Tory Brexiter in a Remain area. He is not representing his constituents or his PM as he wants no deal.

Gonegirl Thu 28-Mar-19 09:57:29

But can you imagine the scene if all of them were allowed a say in it? Mind boggles. Especially as they are most likely to be no better than the ones at the front.

No, not a party political Gill. Soz.

Gonegirl Thu 28-Mar-19 09:59:44

But they've all had votes haven't they? confused

Beckett Thu 28-Mar-19 10:10:14

I think the fact they couldn't agree on anything last night shows that, no matter who was in charge of the negotiations, there would be no consensus. I no longer respect any of our politicians, from either side of the political divide.

Blinko Thu 28-Mar-19 10:11:51

In light of the current omnishambles, why can't they simply vote the way their constituencies did? Then at least they would be representing the views of the majority of the people they purport to represent.

As it stands, no one seems to be representing anything, and there are up to 650 differing perspectives on the way out of this mess.

Parliament seems to be unfit for this particular purpose.