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Parliament at it's worst.

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MamaCaz Thu 28-Mar-19 08:40:38

Grandma70s

I agree with you there on every single word

For opportunistic reasons (personal and Party), Cameron decided to offer the public a sham referendum that he was, in his ignorance, absolutely sure would result in a 'remain' vote.

He was PM, but still couldn't have made this decision in isolation, so the whole of his Conservative Government are equally to blame.

But the thing that couldn't possibly happen did happen!.
The Tories realised that they couldn't backtrack without committing political suicide.

That's how we come to be in this huge mess, which has already cost, and will continue to cost, the UK a fortune for the forseeable future!

This whole bl***y mess is down to Cameron, the then Government and the existing Government which has continued to prioritise its own survival over economic stability.

POGS Thu 28-Mar-19 08:27:20

I could have put my foot through the telly last night when I heard MP's saying in Parliament the decision should be decided upon and abided by looking at the Ammendment that ' FAILED ' with ' HIGHEST VOTE SHARE ' and that should be the ' DECIDER '.

This morning I wake up to hear that is still be promoting and there is no sign of the hypocrisy, the shenanigans that some MP's are using to get their way.

As per the EU Referendum it was the Remain MP's who thought that was a good idea because it favoured them.

Parliament is a disgrace.

Grandma70s Thu 28-Mar-19 06:27:31

It is all Cameron’s fault. If he hadn’t been foolish enough to call a referendum in the first place, we would not be in this mess. The public was not nearly well-informed enough to vote on such an important issue.

An uninformed public, two totally incompetent party leaders - oh well, it makes for riveting television entertainment.

crystaltipps Thu 28-Mar-19 06:02:31

Talking to someone ( not British) today she said-
“I don’t understand parliament- it’s all honourable members this and that, then they shout at each other, then they have votes they know will be ignored anyway, then they vote on the same thing over and over- can you explain it?”
Me - “no”

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 23:19:20

Monday will no doubt see more shenanigans and hypoic

Urmstongran Wed 27-Mar-19 22:57:43

The idea was for Monday to revisit options that had achieved consensus.

And there aren't any.

Urmstongran Wed 27-Mar-19 22:53:25

Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair’s former communications chief and a People’s Vote campaigner, has tweeted out a list of Labour MPs who did not back the Beckett amendment for a confirmatory referendum.

Absolutely pathetic performance from MPs tonight - especially Labour on Beckett as far as Remainers are concerned.

So how is taking back control working out today? Hilarious.

Ginny42 Wed 27-Mar-19 22:50:46

It was never about what kind of Brexit the public wanted, and who knew there could be so many? It was a casual in or out, make your mind up, just a jolly jape. Paying the price now though aren't we?

Urmstongran Wed 27-Mar-19 22:43:10

Tonight has been a rollercoaster.

How did 17 million voters choose all these different Brexits? Was there an extra sheet they forgot to include on my ballot paper?
???

MaizieD Wed 27-Mar-19 22:38:10

Well, this Parliament is what we've got and all of us who have voted over the years are complicit in what we have now because there has been no appetite for changing the system in all those years (which must be 40+ years for most of us).

So there's no point in complaining about it now.

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 22:32:40

Results

1. Leave without a deal: Ayes 160, Noes 400

2. Common Market 2.0: Ayes 188, Noes 283

3. EFTA and EEA: Ayes 65, Noes 377

4. Customs Union: Ayes 264, Noes 272

5. Labour’s alternative plan: Ayes 237, Noes 307

6. Revoking Article 50: Ayes 184, Noes 293

7. Confirmatory public vote: Ayes 268, Noes 295

8. Contingent preferential arrangements: Ayes 139, Noes 422

And they are still talking as though they have a chance of getting their way.

megan123 Wed 27-Mar-19 22:27:33

What a shambles!!

POGS Wed 27-Mar-19 22:15:58

I have watched the debates all day and tonight confirms my opinion Parliament has become a farce and to be frank the votes tonight simply confirmed the waters are further muddied by meddling .

All 8 Amendments were voted down and I couldn't believe the hypocrisy of some of the MP's who ' still ' refuse to accept their ' red lines ' have been put forward and tested and failed.

The Speaker is out of his depth.